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Elspode 11-11-2008 07:41 PM

Karma works whether you believe in it or not. Sometimes, you have to be patient.

Apollo 11-12-2008 02:04 AM

I believe in Karma, but not in any metaphysical sense. I just believe that if you're a good person, it increases the chance that good things will happen to you. There's no certainty that good things WILL happen. Your just making it easier for good things to happen.

Of course, the definition of being a good person is subjective, so that's where my little Karma theory falls through.

But anyway...THIS IS MY FIRST POST. Cheers.

xoxoxoBruce 11-12-2008 07:29 AM

Welcome to the Cellar, Apollo.
Good Karma comes with patience.;)

Pie 11-12-2008 07:37 AM

Hi, Apollo. Well, you started with a thoughtful, readable post -- your Cellar Karma is in the positive. :D

Griff 11-12-2008 03:40 PM

I witnessed karma this week. On Tuesday, I went to a funeral for a 75year old woman. She had spent the last 20? years of her life caring for the old and infirm, people who were taking the long hard road out of the world. She contracted pneumonia / something else and died easy in less than a week. She was blessed.

DanaC 11-12-2008 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 503162)
My leanings are toward Mahyana but I am not a purist and I believe in any of the teachings [of any religion] that have a positive message for mankind without being sexist.

How does that work? Does the message being positive mean it's more likely to be true? Do you believe them all because you believe the positive is most likely to be true or do you believe in them all because you want the positive message to be true?

Nirvana 11-12-2008 11:13 PM

I don't believe in a God that will smite you if you steal an apple. I do not believe there is a purgatory, or a lake of fire. I don't believe that people should have their hands cut off in the name of religion. These are the negative messages that are promoted by certain religions to keep their followers in line. I do not believe in scaring people to choose the right path when its much simpler to show them a easier way to end their suffering.

Pie 11-13-2008 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 503733)
...show them a easier way to end their suffering.

:shotgun:

DanaC 11-13-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 503733)
I don't believe in a God that will smite you if you steal an apple. I do not believe there is a purgatory, or a lake of fire. I don't believe that people should have their hands cut off in the name of religion. These are the negative messages that are promoted by certain religions to keep their followers in line. I do not believe in scaring people to choose the right path when its much simpler to show them a easier way to end their suffering.

*Nods* ok. I can see how you can disbelieve that. What I don't understand (please don't take offence atthis, I am genuinely bemused) is how that can translate to believing all the religions that give positive messages. What if a religion gives a positive message about love and peace, but the main gist of that religion is that aliens started life on earth?

Pie 11-13-2008 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 503869)
What if a religion gives a positive message about love and peace, but the main gist of that religion is that aliens started life on earth?

It makes as much sense as all the rest of 'em. :bolt:

Nirvana 11-13-2008 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 503869)
*Nods* ok. I can see how you can disbelieve that. What I don't understand (please don't take offence atthis, I am genuinely bemused) is how that can translate to believing all the religions that give positive messages. What if a religion gives a positive message about love and peace, but the main gist of that religion is that aliens started life on earth?

The freedom to choose which parts one believes as long as they are the middle way do not really have to be defined as one single religion. I believe if you have compassion for other human beings that your life will be happier. I believe if you help other people your life will be happier. Buddhism is not so much a religion as it is a way of life that follows no extremes.

The basic truth about what I believe is that we are all born and we will all die, so in between we all want to suffer less. Living your life in the shoes of others is very enlightening. :)

DanaC 11-13-2008 06:04 PM

*Smiles* ok. I think I misunderstood your original point :p


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