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monster 07-31-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 472679)
It's the trends. There were 271,645,200 people in the US ten years ago, and 59.236.500 people in the UK ten years ago. The US increase is 10.8% while the UK increase is 2.6%.

that's because we're all moving here :)

xoxoxoBruce 07-31-2008 11:04 AM

Yeah but, if they aren't Cellar members, or at minimum Cellar lurkers, they're nobody.:lol2:

Flint 07-31-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 472689)
hahah fair point, Flint, can't fault it.

But....to take my tongue out of my cheek for a moment: the analogy doesn't really hold up. The internet does not contain all of humanity, merely those who choose to take part in it. The world however, contains all humanity. If you ask me, does the fact that England has far more British people in it than any other group, make it a British country, I say yes.

Unless you can demonstrate a statistically significant difference in internet usage among people, divided along international lines, then I have to assume that the portion of the population who is on the internet is an equal factor among different nations.

And I'm not saying there isn't one, but, between the US and the UK? I can't see a reason for that.

lookout123 07-31-2008 11:46 AM

hey geeks? STFU. that's all.;)

Flint 07-31-2008 11:48 AM

Go play with your Star Wars toys, fanboy!

Flint 07-31-2008 12:19 PM

Current "online users" at AG:

United States of America (3)
Canada (1)
Bolivia (1)
India (1)
Mexico (1)
Peru (1)
Sweden (1)

This is the board where I cut my teeth. I've always thought the internet was a big ol' melting pot. It's hard for me to wrap my mind around the concept of an "American" internet site.

limey 07-31-2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 472773)
Unless you can demonstrate a statistically significant difference in internet usage among people, divided along international lines, then I have to assume that the portion of the population who is on the internet is an equal factor among different nations......

I have to disagree. Surely access to the technology, which is at least partly defined by wealth, is a major factor in the representation of nationalities on the innernets?

Flint 07-31-2008 01:58 PM

Quote:

And I'm not saying there isn't one, but, between the US and the UK? I can't see a reason for that.
What is the difference in "access to the technology, which is at least partly defined by wealth" between the US bullies who dominate this board and the poor UK outcasts who don't get a fair shot at being heard?

I'm not saying there will be an equal number of Afghanis or Rwandans here.

DanaC 07-31-2008 02:02 PM

It's also partly defined by available infrastructure. You're right, Flint, that the difference between the US and the UK is less than that between the US and some other countries, but we are still behind you in terms of coverage. We've started catching up, but that's quite a recent phenomenon. During the dial-up days and even into the beginnings of ADSL, BT had a virtual monopoly on all but cable connections. About three years ago their ability to control the overall infrastructure was removed; that and the burgeoning of broadband has opened the market up quite a bit. It is still very expensive here compared to US internet prices and consequently access is less spread across the economic groups.

glatt 07-31-2008 02:05 PM

I'm waiting for the first Dwellar from Papua New Guinea.

Flint 07-31-2008 02:05 PM

AG online users right now:

United States of America (4)
Canada (4)
Italy (1)
Mexico (2)
United Kingdom (1)
[Other] (2)

DanaC 07-31-2008 02:08 PM

Y'know, I really don't understand what is so difficult to accept about a community which began as a Philedelphia affair and then grew into a wider community with members from far flung places, but the largest portion of which are still in America, being an American board. That doesn't mean it is exclusively an American board. It merely means that the dominant culture is that of America. This is not a bad thing. I do not believe members like myself, who post here from other countries, feel like they are any less a part of the community than the American members are.

London is a cosmopolitan city and there are people of every culture and background, cheek to jowl and living as citizens. It is still, fundamentally, an English city. An English city which has become more than that, a world city.

This is an American board, but it is an American board which has become more than that, a world board. It is both.

glatt 07-31-2008 02:17 PM

I kind of view it as a Philadelphia board that's been taken over by the internet.

DanaC 07-31-2008 02:17 PM

*smiles* I can see that.

classicman 07-31-2008 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 472813)
AG online users right now:

United States of America (4)
Canada (4)
Italy (1)
Mexico (2)
United Kingdom (1)
[Other] (2)

Can ya do it by post count? :3eye:


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