In the same post, even.

Perhaps we need to concentrate on closing the American/Rest Of The World Gap before we even start on poverty .......:bolt:

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I really don't give a crap about the serious criminals that get incarcerated time after time - They are simply a drain our society and should be tossed of the planet. Send them on a one way trip to Mars or something - I care more about the monkeys than them. I would much rather help the poor than those scumbags.

Oh, and yes I think that there are way too many people in prison or jail that don't belong there - your point HM?

There will always be people in prison who don't belong there. Even if you don't care about being humane to real criminals, that should be enough reason to be humane to prisoners.

I recognize that HM - please! My point was that there are options available to us as a society where we can better utilize the monies sent on those incarcerated or reducing that number.

Either one affords us the opportunity to take care of, what I feel is, a more deserving segment of society.

I'm not sure you do.
Any monies spent that result in inhumane treatment of prisoners is disgraceful, not better utilized.

Winston Churchill believed that a society's attitude to its "criminals", is the measure of

HM - I questioned what was "inhumane" the fact that they got three meals a day, gym equipment, tv with cable, libraries...and so on. You've missed my point.

Any time I think about wealth redistribution I think about how the liberals really just want to become dictators in a socialist society.

They always want to make poor peoples lives conform to their standards, when they should be working on providing employment opportunities and then let the people live the way they choose.

Or just give them bread & circuses and keep them in their place? ;)