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ZenGum 01-30-2008 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bbro (Post 428496)
Why is this in the doctor thread??
Hold the scalpel in your right hand, the forceps in your left.

Better? ;)

bbro 01-31-2008 08:53 AM
HA, yes, much better. Thanks Z. :)

Flint 02-07-2008 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 427809)
Meanwhile, this one case sparks ethical seminars and we all get a chance to put the magnifying glass on it.
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Due to over-capacity audience yesterday and by request of numerous employees and physicians, this seminar will be offered again on __________, 2008 at 12 noon. Some physicians who attended yesterday indicated that Directors and Vice Presidents would benefit significantly from hearing the presentation. Additionally, yesterday a physician extended an invitation to The Center for Healthcare Ethics to present this to the greater __________ business community. To Assure a Seat, Register Immediately.

Undertoad 08-07-2008 08:23 AM
Brit docs: £24,000 is too much for life-saving kidney medication
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Patient groups said the decision, announced today by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice), would condemn many sufferers of kidney cancer to an "early death".

The four prohibited medicines include Sutent, which can prolong life in kidney cancer patients by up to two years. The draft guidance also rejects Avastin, Nexavar and Torisel.

Nice said the drugs were too expensive, at about £24,000 a year per patient, for the benefits they offered and would mean the health service was less able to afford more cost-effective drugs for other illnesses.

classicman 08-07-2008 11:20 AM
Yeah Universal Healthcare - can I have some too???

lookout123 08-07-2008 11:50 AM
but what about all the americans who have no access to medical care? what about them? think of the children you heartless bastards!

HungLikeJesus 08-07-2008 11:56 AM
They're trying to do the most good with the money they have. I think it makes perfect sense. Then again, I don't have kidney cancer.

monster 08-07-2008 10:56 PM
they're not denying the drugs to people who have private health insurance, are they? A rich Brit has the same options as a rich American y'all. It's just that poor and medium-level Brits sometimes also get a bite at the cherry. Just not in this case. I don't hear you whining that this isn't available to the homeless bums here.......

xoxoxoBruce 08-07-2008 11:06 PM
That's because I ban the homeless bums. :p

monster 08-07-2008 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 474747)
That's because I ban the homeless bums. :p
I heard you did things to them... is ban a new euphemism for naaaasty things?

xoxoxoBruce 08-07-2008 11:19 PM
If they don't find the bodies, who cares?

TheMercenary 08-08-2008 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 474575)
They're trying to do the most good with the money they have. I think it makes perfect sense. Then again, I don't have kidney cancer.
I have no problem with that and if it is the way we go here in the US the public will get just what they asked for. But knowing the current users of our medicaid system all to well, it will never be enough. Some will win. Some will lose. It is easy to compare health system that serve similar size populations. The problem is that none of the current universal health programs that are held up as standards of success serve populations of 31 million people.

HungLikeJesus 08-08-2008 08:28 AM
I think you left off a zero there, Merc.

Undertoad 08-08-2008 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by monster (Post 474743)
It's just that poor and medium-level Brits sometimes also get a bite at the cherry. Just not in this case. I don't hear you whining that this isn't available to the homeless bums here.......
It is available to the homeless bums here. That's Medicaid.

TheMercenary 08-08-2008 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 474816)
I think you left off a zero there, Merc.
Oops.


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