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Flint 07-20-2007 03:48 PM

Successful by what criteria? If you mean "successful at restricting travel" then they have a better chance...

rkzenrage 07-20-2007 03:49 PM

Exactly.
I can't think of anything that screams "we are a failure" louder than that.

Undertoad 07-20-2007 04:02 PM

"Successful"... let's just say for argument's sake that "successful" means the nation has both an economy strong enough to feed, clothe, and shelter its people; and a civil society strong enough to provide both effective deed management and policing without torture.

rkzenrage 07-20-2007 04:12 PM

I guess, not that I thought of it that way at the time, but am now; that I am defining captivity as torture.
Comfortable with that.

Squid_Operator 07-20-2007 04:42 PM

Communism...Never worked, never will.

piercehawkeye45 07-20-2007 04:43 PM

Communism...Never tried, never will.

Squid_Operator 07-20-2007 04:46 PM

Communism...executing military officials since Marx was a june bug.

piercehawkeye45 07-20-2007 04:51 PM

Seriously, Communism has never been implemented. Every "Communist" state has been totalitarianism with a touch of Communism. I don't think it will ever work but there has not been a true Communist state yet.

Squid_Operator 07-20-2007 04:55 PM

perfect states are easier said than done.

Although I believe when one tries to mold a populace it is ruined.

rkzenrage 07-20-2007 04:59 PM

It's not even that it is imperfect... it's crazy stupid unless you are a termite. Wait... no... they are a totalitarian society... just stupid.

piercehawkeye45 07-20-2007 05:00 PM

Or people just have different perspectives on what is good...

Squid_Operator 07-20-2007 05:03 PM

I encourage everyone to have their own beliefs.

rkzenrage 07-20-2007 05:05 PM

I don't, if they oppress others. Nope.
No reason to respect an opinion that does not make sense and/or harms others.

Squid_Operator 07-20-2007 05:06 PM

True.

Aslong as one's not hurting anyone else in the proccess I meant.

piercehawkeye45 07-20-2007 05:07 PM

That is still an opinion. People don't like capitalism because corporations and the upper class will oppress others. You can call it freedom or whatever but you are still forcing a socio-economic theory on other people. It is a no-win situation.


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