Very slowly if it ever does. I have become very skeptical of how far the parties are allowed to go without going down the drain.

Probably pretty far as long as we're all going down the drain together. When some are and some are not, going down the drain, resentment causes trouble.

The parties change slowly because the electorate changes slowly.

It was a general statement. Although you have mentioned that you think people should voluntarily disarm themselves, so I'm not sure why you're taking exception to what I said.

Because he goes to great lengths to plan a thread that will ultimately prove him right, so when it doesn't, he always gets pissy.

The revolution will be a failure... It'll last until late evening, then will be ruined when American Idol comes on and everyone goes home.

I've never watch American Idol. Too busy being revolting.

hmmm... so the key is to knock out the cable. Actually, tv is probably all that's holding the country together right now.

The 2000 election wasn't "cancelled", but many people feel it was "stolen". Shouldn't there have been more outrage?

Take out the TV and the internet, and all hell will break loose.

yes, there should have been outrage, personally I was waiting for someone to stand up and say 'hey! what the fuck?!?!'.. then again maybe that's the problem.. no one is willing to be that person.

I could not have been more outraged.:(

There was a process. It was followed. Nobody was outraged that the process wasn't followed, they were outraged at the result.

Turn the result around and they wouldn't be outraged = this thread isn't about them.

Outrage -> they posted in an internet forum and told their friends it was outrageous = not really the kind of meaningful change-producing outrage we are talking about.

heh... yeah. still sad though.. when there are riots over trains running on time in the world, yet we sit here and keep quiet. then again I suppose it boils down to the simple fact that we are pretty well off.. we don't generally have to worry about food and shelter.. gives a person time to worry about 'bigger' issues. personally I am thankful to have a job, food and a place to live.

Those with money and those with guns will survive. The rest will be victims.