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Flint

10-26-2006 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

I stand by my criticism of the article, specifically in regards to the poor choice of words.

Flint

10-26-2006 03:31 PM

did y'all hear about this one?

"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?" Sheik Taj Aldin al-Hilali

Aliantha

10-26-2006 05:41 PM

Comments like these are exactly why date rape cases are not reported to police.

JayMcGee

10-26-2006 06:01 PM

this is what comes from giving women the vote.......

Aliantha

10-26-2006 06:03 PM

arsehole

JayMcGee

10-26-2006 06:05 PM

ah.. now you're talking.......

Flint

10-26-2006 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Comments like these are exactly why date rape cases are not reported to police.

That's more than a mere "comment"- that's a sermon to over 500 people! Yay religion!

Aliantha

10-26-2006 06:14 PM

I'm wondering if anyone is surprised by the results of this poll? Personally I'm not because I've done a fair amount of research in the area as you probably would all have guessed by now.

It's incredibly astounding to me that when over half the women who have voted on this poll have either been raped or narrowly avoided it, some people can still find the time to make jokes.

That is my point. This is not an issue that affects a few people. It affects over 25% of the population. That's a fairly huge wack wouldn't you say?

lumberjim

10-26-2006 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee

this is what comes from giving women the vote.......

aw, cmon. that was some funny shit!

Flint

10-26-2006 06:24 PM

"Perhaps this is why it is man alone who laughs: he alone suffers so deeply that he had to invent laughter." - Friedrich Nietzsche

xoxoxoBruce

10-26-2006 10:02 PM

I would imagine the newspaper reporters only asked men for their reaction to the law, or at least lumped them into a section of male reaction. That's because most people think of women victims when rape is mentioned.
That's unfortunate, as rape is not exclusively a male on female crime. Many boys are raped and men in prison know the problem well.:(

Aliantha

10-27-2006 07:38 AM

I just wanted to thank the people who voted on this thread. I realize it takes courage to do what you did and it means just as much that you could say what you did even though it was anonymously.

I hope that even though some people will never understand what you've been though, they may at least have had pause to consider your anguish and in future, maybe things will be different for you and for me.

Flint

10-27-2006 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I would imagine the newspaper reporters only asked men for their reaction to the law, or at least lumped them into a section of male reaction.

My problem with this sentence:

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Some men claim that the reforms will place an impossible burden on them to show that the woman agreed to sex if she had had a few drinks beforehand.

...is that it should have been written like this:

Some claim that the reforms will place an impossible burden on men to show that the woman agreed to sex if she had had a few drinks beforehand.

Otherwise it implies that men, exclusively, object to this law - which is inaccurate and inflamatory.
I don't think a professional journalist could be this naive about semantics. If they are, it's just incompetence.
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@Aliantha: Sorry, if I hijacked your thread. These were a couple of current news items I thought were worthy of discussion.

lhatcher

10-27-2006 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddug

Germaine Greer ( an Aussie feminist who now looks after ducks somewhere in England) says that women should not feel raped by rape . After all , what is rape ? Only a stiff ( and often not THAT stiff because of the booze) member in your vagina . Is your vagina YOU ? Yer bloody mind is stronger than that .

As a girl , Germaine Greer was raped in a car after a party by a person she knew . This is her way of being stronger than rape .

It may help some people who do not dare to say they have been raped .

Women deal with it , and get over it . THE RAPISTS GO TO PRISON .

I agree to a point. Date rape can be gotten over, but when there's violence involved it is way so much more than just a stiff one.

xoxoxoBruce

10-27-2006 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Otherwise it implies that men, exclusively, object to this law - which is inaccurate and inflamatory.

No, it just means that's the strongest negative reaction they could find and who it came from.
You don't think they got a negative reaction from women, do you? The law isn't to protect women from dogs, or men from women, it's clearly women from men. :rolleyes:

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