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I assume a reply here will bring it forward for additional comment on the terms "capsize" and "overturn."

Did this vessel do either as all reports report?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coast-g...rt-11567982240

The incompetence of the whole journalistic chain is deplorable.

I have to say that at least this was kind of funny:
"A car carrying ship developed a serious list off Georgia."

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Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim (Post 1038332)

The incompetence of the whole journalistic chain is deplorable.

That.

I'm developing a list.

Checkin' it twice...

The ship Hyundai Glovis Golden Ray is said to have developed a serious list of 80 degrees and then overturned and capsized, ending up on the bottom (in water about half its width) with a tilt of 90 degrees.
There is simply no meaning to the words "capsize" and "overturn."

How long can a car or truck remain of use turned on its side? Or, I suppose, on its nose or tail?

They are trying to decide whether to right the ship or cut it up in place.

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cap·size /ˈkapˌsīz/
verb: capsize; 3rd person present: capsizes; past tense: capsized; past participle: capsized; gerund or present participle: capsizing
(of a boat) overturn in the water. "the craft capsized in heavy seas"
Similar: overturn, turn over, turn upside down, upset, upend

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capsize verb
cap·size | \ ˈkap-ˌsīz , kap-ˈsīz\
capsized; capsizing
Definition of capsize
transitive verb
: to cause to overturn
capsize a canoe
intransitive verb
: to become upset or overturned : TURN OVER
the canoe capsized

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Meaning of capsize in English
capsize verb [ I or T ]
UK /kæpˈsaɪz/ US /kæpˈsaɪz/
to (cause a boat or ship to) turn upside down by accident while on water:
A huge wave capsized the yacht.
When the boat capsized we were trapped underneath it.

capsize | AMERICAN DICTIONARY
capsize
verb [ I/T ]
US /ˈkæpˌsɑɪz/
to turn over or cause a boat or ship to turn over in the water:
[ I ] A passenger ferry capsized in rough seas Sunday morning.

I always picture capsize as completely upside down. The dictionary kind of hints at that but there's still a lot of leeway.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1038982)

I always picture capsize as completely upside down.

If a ship is capsizing but does not complete the process by landing in shallow water, is that a capsize?

Some reports of the Duck Boat (remember that original topic) said it capsized. But apparently it only swamped.

Still waiting for that final report. Did a final report release happen yet?

Attachment 68818

from thefreedictionary.com

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1039268)

from thefreedictionary.com

People get what they pay for.

Wikipedia explains that it depends on the size of the watercraft. For smaller ones, on its side would be capsized and upside down would be turtled. For larger ones, keeled over or upside down would be capsized.

It seems that the term can be used for any rolling of 90° or more encompassing partially capsized to fully capsized; but, still just "capsized" in common usage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsizing

If your capstan is immersed you're capsized?

This is what I've learned today:

Sexobon is paying for Wikipedia.

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 1039289)

If your capstan is immersed you're capsized?

All I know is that my head is cap-sized.

And also my cap.

Your head is turned upside down by accident while on water.

And also your cap

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1039317)

This is what I've learned today:

Sexobon is paying for Wikipedia.

So am I.