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glatt 11-10-2011 01:21 PM

Rush Limbaugh is a professional liar.

infinite monkey 11-10-2011 01:22 PM

Compulsive liar. Compulsive overeater. Compulsive oxycontin taker.

A big fat idiot.

tw 11-10-2011 09:23 PM

Pew Research provides numbers that say American workers have suffered sharp income decreases in the past ten years.

For example, in 2000, the percent of under 35 and over 65 in poverty had decreased to the lowest numbers of 15% and 12%. Poverty among those under 35 had decreased from 20% (after years of voodoo economics). Now that extremists have changed taxes and other economic parameters to 'fix' this economy, poverty among older Americans only decreased to 11%. While poverty of Americans under 35 has increased from 15% to 22%. Highest poverty numbers in 60 years.

Trickle down economics as been so successful that the average net worth of an American homeowner decreased 28% between 2005 and 2009 - during the end of the so called boom economy. Among those under 35, net worth decreased 55%.

Not only have the average Americans suffered as the expense of the rich. The under 35 Americans have never seen such massive income decreases.

Due to economic miracles created by extremists, in 2009, the average net worth of an American under 35 was only $3,662. Under 35 Americans with a net worth of zero or less was up to 37%. This was before the George Jr's voodoo economics caused increasing debt and unemployment. What do these wacko extremists advocate? "We want Obama to fail." Harming Americans under 35 works because those dumb enough to listen to Limbaugh (ie Tea Party) say these numbers are good. Yes. Economic numbers like this also brought the Nazi party to power.

During Clinton's time, the average income of an under 35 year old increased from $45K in 1992 to $55 in 1999. In 2009, an under 35 year old American only earned a decreased $49K. With inflation, $49K in 2009 was only $32K in 1992 or $38K in 1999. With inflation, real incomes of America's under 35 year olds have dropped about 30% since the days of Clinton. Or did our wacko extremists forget to first learn from the numbers?

Simplify those numbers into 1992 dollars. Under 35 year olds averaged $45K in 1992 dollars in 1992. And earned $47K 1992 dollars in 1999. By 2009, the average under 35 year olds in 2009 was only earning $32K 1992 dollars. Meanwhile, the richest American saw their incomes triple by something like 300%. Clearly wacko extremists economics is the perfect formula to make both Obama and America fail. Did TheMercenary et al forget to learn these numbers?

Pew is blunt about income disparity.
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In 1984, the age-based wealth gap had been 10:1. By 2009, it had ballooned to 47:1.
We know that the world's worst recessions were preceded by increasing income disparity. Everyone knows income disparities between the richest and the average Americans preceded both great American recessions. Pew Research demonstrates that that increasing income disparities between older and younger Americans also indicates (or maybe promotes) recessions.

Welfare for the rich created jobs just as Limbaugh, Hannity, Fox News, and George Jr predicted. Cheney told us that Reagan proved that deficits don't matter. Therefore it must be true. Pew Research must be wrong. Wacko extremist economics clearly has been good for all Americans. A 30% decrease in incomes (with inflation) must be good.

Obama told us it would take at ten years to undo the disasters created by Beck hate and Fox News. These numbers suggest that Obama was being too optimistic. America was even worse when wackos ran the government into massive debts and changed the laws.

TheMercenary 11-11-2011 06:58 AM

The Occupy Movement's Penchant for Inflicting Collateral Damage Isn't Winning it Any Friends

http://reason.com/blog/2011/11/08/th...ant-for-friend

TheMercenary 11-11-2011 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 771227)
The message from the protesters seems garbled. Since they don't understand the big picture, (who does?), they can only talk about how it's affecting them personally. But they do know the system is fucked up, so they protest, hoping to raise awareness that the people can force the country back on course if they stick together and work for it.

This frustrates merc, and FOX News, because it doesn't give them a single point they can spin against. FOX is double pissed because their own tactics are being used against them.

I am not frustrated by it. They majority have become their own worst enemy. The majority will self destruct.

TheMercenary 11-11-2011 08:09 AM

:lol:

Occupy Oakland Protesters Deposit Funds At Wells Fargo After Bank Attacks

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OAKLAND (CBS/AP) — A group of Oakland anti-Wall Street protesters who blame large banks for the economic downturn have decided that one of those institutions is the best place to stash their money for now.

Protesters at an Occupy Oakland meeting Monday voted to deposit a $20,000 donation into a Wells Fargo account. The move comes just days after one of Wells Fargo’s branches was vandalized during a massive downtown demonstration.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...-bank-attacks/

infinite monkey 11-11-2011 09:25 AM

Something occurred to me: isn't it ironic, doncha think, that people who cry about "big government" think the Occupiers will fail because they don't have their own "big government."

'They don't have any unity! They're all scattered about! There's no one in charge! What are they DOING?' :lol:

SamIam 11-11-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber Wolf (Post 771618)

If they want big money out of politics, they need to go in via the political route and they can only do that if they develop a strategy for it. Drum circles and marches get attention, and a protest like this does need attention, but they don't change any policies.

Our strategy is to introduce an amendment to the constitution which will overturn the Supreme's Court's ruling that corporations are people.

Gotta run. Occupy Cortez's picketing starts in an hour. ;)

Lamplighter 11-11-2011 11:38 AM

The Mayor, Sam Adams, has given Occupy Portland a deadline
to clear the city parks: Saturday, midnight.

The Park Commissioner has been pissed since Day 1
The PDX Police Union has been pissed since the 5th of Nov
The PDX business community has been whining all along
The local Tea Party is confused.

Word on the street is that the Mayor is focused on whether or not
"Occupy PDX" has lost control of it's encampment to non-Occupy infiltration.

Quote:

“Portland’s mayor on Thursday ordered one of the largest
Occupy Wall Street camps in the country to shut down this weekend
over concerns about unhealthy conditions and the encampment’s attraction of
drug users and thieves, but a faction of protesters pledged to resist any eviction attempts.
Confrontation may or may not happen, as the General Assembly
is discussing a move to different city park.
Other area "Occupy" groups are discussing support to PDX.
.

Cyber Wolf 11-11-2011 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 772049)
Our strategy is to introduce an amendment to the constitution which will overturn the Supreme's Court's ruling that corporations are people.

Gotta run. Occupy Cortez's picketing starts in an hour. ;)

More power to y'all for that... that concept is ridiculous. But how will that strategy be implemented? Do you have someone with enough patience and is savvy in the ways of getting bills to amend the constitution passed in House and Senate and the clout to get ratified by enough states within 7 years of proposal? Or was the plan to sit in someone's office until he decides to write it up, only to have him leverage the bill into a symbolic vote that he really doesn't care about?

TheMercenary 11-12-2011 07:06 AM

Well that didn't take long.......

Occupy protests face new issue in deaths

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OAKLAND, California (AP) – City leaders across the U.S. are feeling increasing pressure to shut down Occupy protest encampments after two men died in shootings and two others were found dead inside their tents this week.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...0/1?csp=34news

TheMercenary 11-12-2011 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 772049)
Our strategy is to introduce an amendment to the constitution which will overturn the Supreme's Court's ruling that corporations are people.

:lol: Good luck.

Happy Monkey 11-12-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 772203)
Well that didn't take long.......

Occupy protests face new issue in deaths

That's a "new issue"? Did anyone think that camping caused immortality?

TheMercenary 11-12-2011 08:47 AM

Yes, shootings are a "new issue" at the mob gatherings.

Happy Monkey 11-12-2011 10:25 AM

Not at the locations, though.


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