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Shawnee123 06-24-2009 06:14 PM

Haggis.

For the record, I consider c-man a friend. We should never ever talk politics to each other. Mostly this issue, which I still consider to be of the big NON variety, sticks in my craw because of the seeming constant watchful eyes for anything that seems inappropriate for our President (this, Michelle's clothes...those kinds of things) when it all really is just "who gives a rat's ass?"

That, and whenever you point this out, you are deemed an ass-kisser, you hear snide remarks like "oh he's not our savior?" and a million other tiny comebacks to go with tiny points.

It gets tiring, and when I saw this I thought "you're freaking kidding me." So I said as much.

Eh, this thread degraded as much as any thread where classic and I discuss politics. ;)

and haggis

TheMercenary 06-24-2009 09:41 PM

I love Haggis. Want to hear the story?

TheMercenary 06-24-2009 09:45 PM

Someone please pass me whateverthefuck youallaresmoking. Thanks.

Shawnee123 06-25-2009 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 577300)
Someone please pass me whateverthefuck youallaresmoking. Thanks.

'ere!

TheMercenary 06-25-2009 09:49 AM

Ummmmmm.... smoked Haggis!

classicman 06-25-2009 04:01 PM

C'mon man don't bogart that haggis

kerosene 06-25-2009 10:23 PM

I think I'll avoid whatever y'all are smoking. ;)

sugarpop 06-25-2009 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 577093)
The bottom line guys is that much of our mainstream press is a well oiled machine. The other side of the coin is Huffington Post and Rush, who can pretty much get away with saying anything they want and others pick it up as news. Which it is not.

I cannot believe you are comparing the Huffington Post with Rush.

sugarpop 06-25-2009 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 577155)
No, I just realized that it was useless to discuss it with you, Rerun and S123. So in order to not get shitty about it, I let it go.

Basically, the questioner and the question were discussed beforehand, of that there is no doubt. That is very uncommon from our press conferences as it removes credibility to anyone actually paying attention both here and around the world.

As I said before. I do not believe having prepared, previously discussed or softball questions is right. That is all.

Obama apparently knew this person had been in contact with many people in Iran. What is the problem with letting him know in advance, if they wanted to ask him a question, he would answer it? Since the Iranian people had no reason to believe they could ask him a question, that would have had to be set up in advance. I really don't see a problem there. I personally don't believe Obama adequately answered the question, but that is another discussion.

TheMercenary 06-26-2009 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 577691)
I cannot believe you are comparing the Huffington Post with Rush.

They are the both different sides of the same coin.

Happy Monkey 06-26-2009 08:49 AM

Republicans love false equivalency.

TheMercenary 06-26-2009 09:20 AM

Well I am not a Republickin but I fail to how you can draw the conclusion that it is a "false" equivalency. There is nothing false about it. You have two sources of information. Both of which are representing the extremes of the political continuum.

Urbane Guerrilla 06-27-2009 01:18 AM

Haggis are moist, and difficult to light.

sugarpop 06-28-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 577731)
They are the both different sides of the same coin.

No, they are not. Rush makes completely ridiculous claims as truth, like Obama is somehow responsible for Mark Sanford's affair of the past year, or that Obama caused the recession. Seriously, I saw clips of his radio show where he actually said those things. I suppose it's a good thing we have proof the recession started before he was elected...

The Huffington Post is admittedly a more left of center news source, but they do not make ludicrous claims like that about the right.

TheMercenary 06-28-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 578368)
No, they are not. Rush makes completely ridiculous claims as truth, like Obama is somehow responsible for Mark Sanford's affair of the past year, or that Obama caused the recession. Seriously, I saw clips of his radio show where he actually said those things. I suppose it's a good thing we have proof the recession started before he was elected...

The Huffington Post is admittedly a more left of center news source, but they do not make ludicrous claims like that about the right.

They are no different. But because you are a leftist you can't see it any more than someone who supports what Rush says.


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