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tw 01-24-2007 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 309782)
Nah, its an in-class essay on social contracts for a class that doesnt REALLY encourage out of the box thinking as much as it should.

Define and / or example a social contract.

Urbane Guerrilla 01-24-2007 08:16 PM

And don't fret, Ibram; the idea that one can plagiarize oneself is complete bullshit. Anyone accusing you of it is full of something that makes the roses grow -- and check the color of his eyes.

Clodfobble 01-24-2007 08:51 PM

I think he's more concerned about proving it is in fact himself he's plagiarizing--I mean, in theory he could plagiarize, say, something Elspode said, and when he got caught say, "No no, see, I'm Elspode!" and they may or may not believe him. By mentioning his paper he's establishing beforehand that "Ibram" is in fact "John Doe the student in Taiwan's" alias.

Urbane Guerrilla 01-25-2007 01:24 AM

By definition, one cannot plagiarize oneself, but one may repeat oneself... even ad infinitum.

Ibby 01-25-2007 06:28 AM

Yes, but UG, Clodfobble's right. I've already told my teacher and all and hes cool with it, but I'm just establishing that those ARE my words, and therefore NOT plagiarism.

Urbane Guerrilla 01-26-2007 01:34 AM

Which was what I was saying, too.

Ibby 01-26-2007 02:28 AM

Yes, but you being YOU, I had to argue.

tw 01-26-2007 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 310142)
Yes, but UG, Clodfobble's right.

Meanwhile, define and / or example a social contract.

Ibby 01-26-2007 03:44 AM

read some rousseu, or voltaire, or locke. The social contract is the binding written OR nonwritten contract between the people and their government or the people and eachother; in the case of my paper, the constitution is the social contract of the US, and Bush violated it (repeatedly) by ignoring and violating the clear and binding text of both the constitution and the bill of rights.

tw 01-26-2007 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 310424)
read some rousseu, or voltaire, or locke. The social contract is the binding written OR nonwritten contract between the people and their government or the people and eachother; in the case of my paper, the constitution is the social contract of the US,

That is the part your paper must establish up front. I see little in common with the philosophies of rousseu, voltaire, etc and something written in stone - a Constitution. But then your definition of a social contract implies something vague (written or unwritten). As a contract, the two parties must be clearly defined - another definition that your paper must define up front.

Social contract is an expression to summarize ideas. But the noun is too vague; should be defined whenever or where ever it is used.

Ibby 01-26-2007 11:42 PM

The assignment is to write about the social contract. The point is not to define the social contract; the point is to describe a current events situation in terms of the social contract.

Urbane Guerrilla 01-27-2007 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 310420)
Yes, but you being YOU, I had to argue.

Or YOU being you, you had to argue.

Let us be amused, and titter. :cool: <more or less throwing a dart at the smiley board>

tw 01-30-2007 12:33 AM

Another example of how much George Jr (and Republican extremists who also use Hitler's propaganda techniques) so hates free markets and humanity; and so love K-street corruption and Urbane Guerrilla dictatorships. An exaggeration? Not for a minute. Cheney has always insisted that the president does not have enough power. From the NY Times of 29 Jan 2007:
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Bush Directive Increases Sway on Regulation
President Bush has signed a directive that gives the White House much greater control over the rules and policy statements that the government develops to protect public health, safety, the environment, civil rights and privacy. ...
This strengthens the hand of the White House in shaping rules that have, in the past, often been generated by civil servants and scientific experts.

BigV 01-30-2007 03:06 PM

This administration has decreed that every unit will have it's own politikal officer, to monitor the unit's loyalty to the Exekutive. God save us.

Hippikos 01-31-2007 03:47 AM

Sounds like the Politruks in Stalin's days....


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