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Radar 01-09-2008 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 422971)
Prove that please. You have stated too many times that nothing other than the constitution matters, then when verifiably proven wrong REPEATEDLY you try to slip away with another game of round robin duck and switch. :headshake
Now you want us to believe that another part of "the Constitution" that inarguably proves you are insane and completely WRONG is not valid - yeah right. :right: And we're the wacko's uh huh.
suuuuureee we are. :eyebrow:

1. I've NEVER been proven wrong a single time with the Constitution, though I've proven you wrong verifiably and repeatedly on many occasions.

2. I don't try to "slip" away ever. I address the issue. Others in this thread have attempted to change the game and discuss the definition of "of" or the use of punctuation marks.

3. I've proven each and every single thing I've said with regard to the Constitution and immigration. No part of it grants the federal government authority over immigration....not the migration and importation of slaves (which are the only people referred to in that clause), not the power to repel invasions, not the "general welfare" clause, not the power to make laws concerning naturalization, etc.

Many attempts have been made by people in this thread to twist the Constitution to mean what they want it to mean, or to misconstrue some part of the Constitution that has nothing to do with the immigration of free people, to mean that it does.

People have danced around and dodged the truth and tried to hit me from every angle with laughably stupid arguments, but in every case they were shut down by the truth, by the facts, by the words of our founders, and by the simple and clear language of U.S. Constitution itself which PROHIBITS the federal government from creating or enforcing immigration laws.

classicman 01-09-2008 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 422983)
Many attempts have been made by people in this thread to twist the Constitution to mean what they want it to mean, or to misconstrue some part of the Constitution that has nothing to do with the immigration of free people, to mean that it does.

I'll just take this one part - you, Radar, have repeated attempted to tell "us" what a passage or portion of the Constitution refers to or means or is applicable to or directed at or or or or or ad nauseum. Then when it is clearly stated in the Constitution that you are wrong, you claim that part of the Constitution is not valid because it disagrees with your perspective.
Thats fine, I think everyone has got their own perspective and yours is just very different than most well virtually everyone else's. Still thats a good thing to a point, but to claim that you are right and everyone who disagrees with you is less of an American. Well thats where you cross a very dangerous line. Add to that your own admission that you would murder a border agent serving his duty and your refusal to pay income taxes.... I'm out - you should spend time with wolfs equivalent in your area.

Radar 01-09-2008 07:51 PM

I would not murder anyone. I would use defensive force against anyone who tried to stop me from bringing over undocumented immigrants because they would be attempting to violate the Constitution and to violate the rights of people legally and peacefully entering the country. It is nobody's duty to prevent people from doing this and being a member of an unconstitutional part of government enforcing unconstitutional laws does not lend them any legitimacy. If a border patrol agent didn't try to stop me or follow me, he wouldn't be harmed by me.

I haven't offered my "view" of what the Constitution means. I've provided the actual text and the true meaning of the words in them in the original context of the founders.

Those who want to violate the Constitution or who support unconstitutional parts of government or unconstitutional laws genuinely are less worthy to call themselves American. I have never said any part of the Constitution is invalid because I disagree with it. I've described how the 16th amendment was fraudulently ratified. I've offered facts, not opinion.

How is keeping what I earn considered wrong? How is not allowing myself to be robbed a bad thing? How is complying with the Constitution and acting as an enemy of those who don't make me a monster? How is defending the rights of innocent people a threat? How does standing up to criminals who enforce unconstitutional laws make me anything other than a patriot?

TheMercenary 01-09-2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 422973)
Correction, I liked that particular comment. I disagree with Radar on most things we've ever discussed...and agree with him on a smattering too.

I find your attitude towards illegal immigrants distasteful. To me it is racist. This is not news to you Merc, we've had this discussion ourselves in the past :P

Thank you for the clarification, you are a twit.

classicman 01-09-2008 08:25 PM

I'll repeat myself.

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 422986)
I'm out - you should spend time with wolfs equivalent in your area.


TheMercenary 01-09-2008 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 423007)
I would not murder anyone. I would use defensive force against anyone who tried to stop me from bringing over undocumented immigrants because they would be attempting to violate the Constitution and to violate the rights of people legally and peacefully entering the country. It is nobody's duty to prevent people from doing this and being a member of an unconstitutional part of government enforcing unconstitutional laws does not lend them any legitimacy. If a border patrol agent didn't try to stop me or follow me, he wouldn't be harmed by me.

I haven't offered my "view" of what the Constitution means. I've provided the actual text and the true meaning of the words in them in the original context of the founders.

Those who want to violate the Constitution or who support unconstitutional parts of government or unconstitutional laws genuinely are less worthy to call themselves American. I have never said any part of the Constitution is invalid because I disagree with it. I've described how the 16th amendment was fraudulently ratified. I've offered facts, not opinion.

How is keeping what I earn considered wrong? How is not allowing myself to be robbed a bad thing? How is complying with the Constitution and acting as an enemy of those who don't make me a monster? How is defending the rights of innocent people a threat? How does standing up to criminals who enforce unconstitutional laws make me anything other than a patriot?

To late dude, you have been quoted by saying that you would murder a Border Patrol Agent who was doing his duty to protect our Nation from an invasion of illegal aliens. You are no patriot. You are an E-4 loser who passes himself off as some internet expert on the Constitution but you can produce absolutely no credentials to support that notion. You have admitted to being a Tax Evader and do not pay your Federal income tax, but you suck off the national resources. You are a total loser and a traitor to our nation, who supports the illegal invasion of criminal elements who want to do nothing more than suck off of our lifestyle supported by taxpayers money. You need to move to Canada or move you and your crack whore back to Mexico where you belong. You are no American and have no authority to judge anyone. If you do believe all that you say step up to the plate and challenge your notions in a court of law, but you can’t because you would lose and be exposed in your fantasy world. I have forwarded this thread to the HQ Boarder Patrol, maybe they can subpoena your IP address and find out just who you are… have a great life traitor scum.

:D

Aliantha 01-09-2008 09:12 PM

Merc...Dana is not a twit mate. Don't put yourself in the same class as others who resort to personal insults.

Radar 01-09-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 423026)
To late dude, you have been quoted by saying that you would murder a Border Patrol Agent who was doing his duty to protect our Nation from an invasion of illegal aliens. You are no patriot. You are an E-4 loser who passes himself off as some internet expert on the Constitution but you can produce absolutely no credentials to support that notion. You have admitted to being a Tax Evader and do not pay your Federal income tax, but you suck off the national resources. You are a total loser and a traitor to our nation, who supports the illegal invasion of criminal elements who want to do nothing more than suck off of our lifestyle supported by taxpayers money. You need to move to Canada or move you and your crack whore back to Mexico where you belong. You are no American and have no authority to judge anyone. If you do believe all that you say step up to the plate and challenge your notions in a court of law, but you can’t because you would lose and be exposed in your fantasy world. I have forwarded this thread to the HQ Boarder Patrol, maybe they can subpoena your IP address and find out just who you are… have a great life traitor scum.

:D

blah blah blah blah you moronic little pussy. You run your big mouth off about shit you know nothing about. I'm your better in every way. You're just an ignorant punk ass little bitch.

My name and address is posted online. Give it your best shot.

monster 01-09-2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 423037)
I'm your better in every way.

Not true.

If you were better in every way, everyone would prefer you to Merc, right?

Aliantha 01-09-2008 11:37 PM

Geez monster...now you're making it hard.

Bullitt 01-10-2008 12:13 AM

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Radar 01-10-2008 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 423053)
Not true.

If you were better in every way, everyone would prefer you to Merc, right?

No. People don't always prefer what's better. In fact most times they don't. That's why we have so many fast food places. :)

xoxoxoBruce 01-10-2008 01:18 AM

Fuck those Mexicans, how do we get rid of the damn Irish?

DanaC 01-10-2008 06:50 AM

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Thank you for the clarification, you are a twit.
*smiles* I think you mispelled that :P

monster 01-10-2008 06:55 AM

:rolleyes: so prefer and better have different meanings in the Radar dicktionary too! Now I'm starting to see the light. all my life I must've been unknowingly waiting for him to come along and show me the path :lol: No more Oxford and Websters for me....


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