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Redux 04-20-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 558410)
If you are really worried about the elections then start looking very closely at ACORN and its ties...

In the words of a wise dweller...."good grief, let it go" ;)

TheMercenary 04-20-2009 10:52 PM

There are plenty of articles out there to support what I have been saying here.

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Pelosi didn't share the president's dream of brotherly love breaking out in the Capitol. She was in charge, this was her bill and she would decide what was in it. To the ire of Republicans, and some Democrats, Pelosi maneuvered to put the stimulus package on an emergency fast track, cutting short debate on the bill and cutting Republicans out of the discussion. "I believe the president was absolutely sincere in looking for a bipartisan outcome," Dent says. "But the White House lost control of the process when the bill was outsourced to Pelosi."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/186961

classicman 04-20-2009 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 558417)
In the words of a wise dweller...."good grief, let it go" ;)

I am gonna sit back in the shadows and watch and lurk and see all there is to see and predict bad things for all to read until something comes of it and then what will you say? Huh? :eyebrow:

TheMercenary 04-20-2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 558406)
So are you saying that scene wasn't real then?

I think worrying about our elections is very relevant, considering how fucked up they have been for the past eight years. You think I'm stupid for wanting to fix that? All righty then. I guess you don't really believe in democracy...

Do you think they are suddenly fucked up or is that just because you don't support who was in office at the time?

And if they were fucked up for the last 8 years then the election of Obamy must have been fucked up too? Right? Or are they not fucked up because you are ok that he won, even with all the fuckeduptedness in our election process?

Shutting down ACORN will be a big improvement.

Redux 04-20-2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 558418)
There are plenty of articles out there to support what I have been saying here.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/186961

Go to the source...the House rules on the 2010 budget proposal....and point out the lack of transparency that includes several substitute Republican proposals...that are more restrictive than any previous rules.

TheMercenary 04-20-2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 558426)
Go to the source...the House rules on the 2010 budget proposal....and point out the lack of transparency that includes several substitute Republican proposals...that are more restrictive than any previous rules.

So you are still going to ignore the facts about how business is actually being done by Pelosi and the Dems, not what they say they are going to do.

I don't really care what the Republickins are doing or not doing. They are not in charge.

Redux 04-20-2009 11:03 PM

The facts are in the House rules....including a Republican substitute proposal...equal time for debate on amendments..etc.

Republicans are bitching about a limit on amendments, which is hardly anything new....that has been the case with all recent House rules or the minority could stall the budget proposal for ever if they so desired.

In fact, there were more amendments allowed in the Budget committees this year than previous years.

TheMercenary 04-20-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 558430)
The facts are in the House rules....including a Republican substitute proposal...equal time for debate on amendments..etc.

Republicans are bitching about a limit on amendments, which is hardly anything new....that has been the case with all recent House rules or the minority could stall the budget proposal for ever if they so desired.

In fact, there were more amendments allowed in the Budget committees this year than previous years.


Redux 04-20-2009 11:11 PM

That was fun... and maybe you learned something about the budget process...or you might if you take the time to read source information rather than editorials only :)

TheMercenary 04-20-2009 11:17 PM

It was fun.... watching you try to cover for Pelosi's shenanigans as she and all the other apologist try to claim otherwise.

sugarpop 04-20-2009 11:22 PM

yes, but we are a democratic republic.

Redux 04-20-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 558441)
It was fun.... watching you try to cover for Pelosi's shenanigans as she and all the other apologist try to claim otherwise.

My deal still holds.

I wont cite any editorials, blogs or other questionable sources as undisputed factual information if you dont.

I have no problem sticking to primary source information when the discussion calls for facts and not opinions.

Let me know if you wanna play by those rules...but it will limit your bullshit ;)

Aliantha 04-20-2009 11:43 PM

Redux, you should know by now that there's no limit to Merc's bullshit. :lol2:

Redux 04-20-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 558450)
Redux, you should know by now that there's no limit to Merc's bullshit. :lol2:

I propose a http://www.shopgadgetsandgizmos.com/...hp?imgID=12300 button for the Cellar....to automatically lock a person out of a discussion if 3 (5, 10?) other members press the button!

xoxoxoBruce 04-20-2009 11:52 PM

:bs:


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