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Lamplighter 10-29-2011 11:26 AM
What has the OWS movement accomplished ?

Quote:
J.P. Morgan joins U.S. Bancorp, Citigroup Inc., PNC Financial Services Group Inc., KeyCorp
and other large banks that have said in recent days that they won't impose monthly fees on debit cards.
None of those banks said they made their decisions because of the outcry over Bank of America's fees.
OK, so they did not make their decision because of BofA.

Quote:
"We looked at all options and quickly decided it didn't fit with our overall strategy,"
said David Bowen, who runs the consumer-product business at Cleveland-based Key,
which ranks among the 20 largest banks in the country.
What they saw as their option was a gathering of Occupy Cleveland ! :D

Lamplighter 10-30-2011 10:19 PM
The news media is headlining arrests of OWS protestors in various cities.
Occupy Oregon is being named in the headlines.
Here is the tone of arrests in our city:

Cops, Occupy Protesters Clash in Denver; Portland Demonstrators Defy City Leaders
ABC News
By ERIN McLAUGHLIN
Oct. 30, 2011
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The latest arrests came early this morning in Portland, Ore.,
where protesters remained in a park in the affluent Pearl District
past the midnight curfew, after city officials had told them not to expand
their encampments beyond the parks they had already occupied.
<snip>
There was no violence, as protesters showed no resistance,
and most went limp so police had to carry or drag them away.

TheMercenary 10-31-2011 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 768352)
The news media is headlining arrests of OWS protestors in various cities.
Good.

Pico and ME 10-31-2011 06:42 AM
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Lets just see them try to arrest Linus!

Lamplighter 10-31-2011 09:07 AM
ENews Park Forest
Occupy Portland: Update on Jamison Square Sit-In
Quote:
But the protesters and officers weren’t all business.

“When they started chanting ‘You’re sexy, you’re cute, take off the riot suit’,
the protesters and officers were chuckling.”

After the protesters sitting were arrested, remaining supporters flooded the square and
continued to protest until the park re-opened at 5AM with no further arrests.

SamIam 10-31-2011 03:07 PM
And from Occupy Denver:

Quote:
DENVER -- After violent clashes with police Saturday, Occupy Denver demonstrators focused Sunday on getting arrested activists out of jail and promoting a peaceful message.

By late Sunday night, Occupy Denver organizers said all but one of the 20 protesters arrested Saturday had been bonded out of jail with donations from volunteers.

They also said the National Lawyers Guild mobilized more than 45 attorneys willing to represent those arrested for free.

David Blessing was one of the protesters who bonded out Sunday night after being arrested for failing to comply with a police order.

"I hope our actions will help the American people see how determined we are," Blessing said. "The police were under orders. They do their job. The problem isn't with the police. It's with the people who tell the police what to do, and that's the politicians."

Meanwhile, protestors held a candlelight peace vigil Sunday night, blaming police for the chaos and accusing officers of excessive force.
I don't know which side is right on this or if they both are, but I HAVE been in downtown Denver on a Saturday night. It can get pretty wild around closing time and then throw in a bunch of protesters and good luck EVER figuring out who was who. :eyebrow:

henry quirk 10-31-2011 04:14 PM
the perspective of a Giant Anteater
 
Essentially, this is the way things are...

Occupying monkeys fling poop at rich monkeys 'cause the rich monkeys have more bananas.

Envy, they name is 'occupant'.

Perhaps if the occupying monkeys were brighter, more innovative, more robust, they too might be rich monkeys with loads and loads of bananas.

Alas, no: the occupying monkeys are dumb, dull, and lazy...they belong to the 'think outside the box' generation and yet not a single one 'can' (think outside the box, or the cage).

Each believes, simply because he or she 'is' a monkey, other monkeys owe him or her bananas.

Insanity, thy name is 'occupant'.

The rich monkeys have the bulk of the bananas...how they got the bananas (*legally, illegally; morally, immorally) is irrelevant...they HAVE the bananas and the envious, occupying, monkeys' do not.

This will not change.

*shrug*








*absurd fictions that change with the seasons

DanaC 10-31-2011 05:54 PM
How do you know it won't change? The level of wealth and lifestyle disparity is not a constant.

piercehawkeye45 10-31-2011 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 768628)
Essentially, this is the way things are..
No its not. You can't generalize all of OWS as that, not even close.

henry quirk 11-01-2011 08:41 AM
"The level of wealth and lifestyle disparity is not a constant"
 
Sure: the monkey who 'has' today may be the monkey who 'has not' tomorrow.

What, however, 'is' constant is disparity, inequity...some monkey will always have more bananas than another, and -- in most cases -- the one who has less will envy the one who has more.

##

"No its not."

Yes, it is.

#

"You can't generalize all of OWS as that, not even close."

Yes, I can.

DanaC 11-01-2011 09:15 AM
I said the levels weren't constant. The fact of inequality may be a constant. The level of wealth and lifestyle disparity is not. The gap is not consistent across history.

Lamplighter 11-01-2011 09:18 AM
But if one MONKEY is beating up other monkeys and taking their bananas,
there will eventually come a way for the multitudes of monkeys to stop the MONKEY.
That's not called redistribution of wealth.

It's called: "Look out, MONKEY, we 99% monkeys know where you live".

infinite monkey 11-01-2011 09:35 AM
On behalf of monkeys, I'm offended by your characterization.

Can't they be, like, ferrets? Will the ferrets get offended? I don't care. Fuck the ferrets. :lol:

henry quirk 11-01-2011 09:35 AM
Lamp...
 
If one monkey has access to, say, 400 million bananas, I'm thinking he can afford to give the finger to all those impoverished, occupant, monkeys...after all, 20 million bananas buys a helluva lot of gorillas, each more than capable of dealing with anything the occupants monkeys can foist up.

Yes, Virginia: it really does come down to 'might makes the right'.

As I say up-thread, 'how they (the banana-having monkeys) got the bananas (legally, illegally; morally, immorally) is irrelevant.'

Why irrelevant?

'Cause 'morality' and 'just' are fictions.

In the same way: the envy of the banana-less monkeys is morally neutral (amoral).

I don't decry the occupants for envy, only for their *dishonesty.

They dress up 'envy' in pretty clothes and call it 'right' and 'moral'.

Just pony up with the truth, for a change, that being, 'we want your bananas!'









*Also irrelevant...I'm just sayin'... ;)

henry quirk 11-01-2011 09:42 AM
Dana
 
"I said the levels weren't constant."

So you did...irrelevant to my point, that being: the occupiers are driven by envy.

Whether for ten bananas, or, ten billion bananas: envy is envy is envy.


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