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Aliantha 10-19-2007 08:26 PM

What do you mean dyslexia is a disease for the intelligent? I had no idea it was so selective. I'd be interested to see some facts to back that statement up.

DanaC 10-20-2007 09:06 AM

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Actually dyslexia is a disease for the intelligent.
Sorry rk, my Bullshit detector just went off like a foghorn.

The only relationship between intelligence and dyslexia is that there is no relationship.

Dyslexia is not linked to intelligence. You can have a high IQ and be dyslexic...and you can be thick as the preverbial swine stool and be dyslexic. The ability to learn to read and/or spell, is likewise not linked to intelligence. Someone with disablingly low IQ, may well acquire their reading skills with prodigious speed...they may have low comprehension of what they're reading, but they may well read highly competantly. By the same token, there are many people with high IQ's and highly developed comprehension skils for whom learning to read is a serious challenge, and for whom reading (and spelling) may always be problematic.


[eta]: for those who haven't really come across dyslexia, beyond what is apparent in popular culture, the condition is a good deal more complex than 'word blindness'. It can affect such things as the ability to read a clock, a map, road signs...or it may not. It can affect organisational skills (time-keeping, organising a work folder, sequencing actions)...to lesser or greater degrees. It can affect reading, without affecting writing, or it can affect both. It affects how long the visually accessed written word will stay in the memory(think about reading something from a blackboard and transcribing it to a page in front of you) and when affecting reading, or spelling there are often key letter combinations which regularly cause problems. It's also closely associated (and there is much cross-over between the two) with dyspraxia, more commonly known as 'clumsy child syndrome'.

Dyslexics are often very creative people. I am not sure why, my reading on the subject wasn't detailed enough to get to the nitty-gritty of the brain's workings. But I assume it's because their brains process information slightly differently and they often sequence things slightly differently to non-dyslexics.

Cicero 10-20-2007 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 397311)
I should make one, and for ad homonym (sp?)

Wow. You still don't know your spelling error. The wrong letters entirely. Let's spell it properly again.

ad· homi·nem·

This is not an indicator of Dyslexia.
:D

You know what? I like you RK. You started the name calling in this very thread that you don't remember me being a part of. Do you really smoke that much pot?

When you have any grievance with anyone you immediately get petty. I've done this to people and I force myself to apologize because I've been wrong. Do you have no conscience?

And- I'm not going to take definitions from someone that doesn't even know how to have a conversation or connect with other people. I have friends just like you. You squawk and squawk and poop, leaving everyone else to clean up your crap. One of my good friends is also exhibiting this behavior by stirring up issues on a bulletin board and not even listening when people are in complete agreement. He posts controversial crap constantly and doesn't even check the responses to his newest complaint. He's being a human troll, and I'm not going to bother with him anymore either. He's become someone that has a complete inability to communicate. He's become a walking billboard of current issues, and any act of real communication is futile anymore. He's become the human embodiement of a troll. See, when people do this in person people give up then too. How do you expect to get away with it here? Did you already forget that people were here for you while you were in the hospital? Or was I tail-posting in that thread too? Was offering support another unoriginal idea that I had? Screw you. And it's not just me. You do this to everyone.

Start paying some attention to what other people are saying.

DanaC 10-20-2007 01:04 PM

From Langmaker http://www.langmaker.com/db/Ad_homonym

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ad homonym adj. ad homophone [Note: on analogy with "ad hominem".] Appealing to feelings and appreciation of puns, jokes, word-play, and jargon rather than intellect: witty.

Coined By: Nick Kalivoda

Retrieved from "http://www.langmaker.com/db/Ad_homonym"
*smiles*

Cicero 10-20-2007 03:13 PM

Damn it Dana!!!
;)

xoxoxoBruce 10-20-2007 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 397431)
You can have a high IQ and be dyslexic...and you can be thick as the preverbial swine stool and be dyslexic.

Really? Swine stool is proverbial? No wonder we admire your wonderful British lexicon.

queequeger 10-20-2007 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 397527)
Really? Swine stool is proverbial? No wonder we admire your wonderful British lexicon.

Proverbial doesn't just mean 'from a proverb,' man. It can also mean 'widely referred to.' So "He's dumb as the proverbial box of rocks" is correct usage. As is swine stool, if swine stool is a common measure of intelligence.

xoxoxoBruce 10-20-2007 09:45 PM

Thick as swine stool, is NOT proverbial, in the United States.

queequeger 10-20-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 397581)
Thick as swine stool, is NOT proverbial, in the United States.

Ah, I get it. You were poking fun at the phrase being used frequently. I thought you were correcting usage. Check. ;)

rkzenrage 10-21-2007 03:02 AM

Dana and Cice... always good to see your true colors.

DanaC 10-21-2007 04:07 AM

Bruce, I was being facetious. For swine stool, read pigshit:P

@ rk, wtf you talking about? True colours? You made a very silly statement about dyslexia. I happen to know a bit about dyslexia and corrected the statement.

rkzenrage 10-21-2007 04:29 AM

Of course, that's all you said... how silly of me, no insults or personal attacks in your post?
LOL!

DanaC 10-21-2007 05:29 AM

I said my bullshit detector went off. That's the extent of any so-called attack. I called you out on something about which you were mistaken (and using said mistake within an attack on somebody else). Remember you said (somewhere) that you admit when you are wrong and somebody points it out to you?

Showing your true colours again are you rk?

Aliantha 10-21-2007 08:01 AM

Well, I also questioned the statement about dyslexic people being intelligent.

rkz, do you have any reference for your statement at all because if so I'd love to see it. I'm seriously doubtful that there could be such a thing although I have no doubt that some people with dyslexia are very intelligent and can achieve great things if and when their problem is identified. In fact, there is one member of my family who has dyslexia and he was a brilliant honours student and now helps design weapons to kill people with. There are other members of the family who have similar problems and they're definitely not einstines in any way even though they're definitely not as thick as swine stool either.

I just don't believe your statement due to my own personal experience and also academic research.

xoxoxoBruce 10-21-2007 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 397621)
Bruce, I was being facetious. For swine stool, read pigshit:P

I know you were, but what a wonderful description. Something colorful and descriptive, I've come to expect from Brits.


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