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Mr.Anon.E.Mouse 08-10-2005 01:46 PM

Seriously, though, what's this 'we' basiness - I'm referring to the original post, here. I don't know anyone that hates French folks other than my dad and he thinks India is in the Middle East!

lookout123 08-10-2005 01:48 PM

that's because you are in california. californians, REAL californians, aren't that different than the french - they just don't have history to back up their attitudes. ;)

Mr.Anon.E.Mouse 08-10-2005 02:00 PM

HAHAHA!

Are you saying that Californians are ARROGANT?! What do YOU kow about US?! Your simple mind cannot begin to fathom the complexity of what it is to be Californian. ;)

lookout123 08-10-2005 02:20 PM

Quote:

simple mind cannot begin to fathom the complexity of what it is to be Californian.
ain't that the truth.

My wife and i went to the St Regis (dana point, i think?)for sunday brunch a couple of months back. fortunately our old roommate works there and we didn't have to pay because there is no way in hell i'm paying $200 for breakfast. that was just stupid.

it sure was yummy though. and lots of famous people. but that is it. oh, and the view was beautiful too...

marichiko 08-10-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Anon.E.Mouse
HAHAHA!

Are you saying that Californians are ARROGANT?! What do YOU kow about US?! Your simple mind cannot begin to fathom the complexity of what it is to be Californian. ;)

Ooooh, can we start bashing Californians now? I know LOT'S about Californians. Colorado has Californians like other people have termites. People here have bumper stickers that read "DON'T CALIFORTNICATE COLORADO!" I did have a friend who was from California once. I forget what happened to him. I think he either got shot by a rancher or eaten by a mountain lion. Can't remember now... :apaw: :unsure:

Oh, nothing personal, Mr. Mouse! ;)

BigV 08-10-2005 03:08 PM

*ahem*

mrnoodle 08-10-2005 04:53 PM

I spent a good year travelling around California, from Lakeside to Merced to Napa to Redding, and found really cool people all the way up. San Francisco and L.A. have high concentrations of weird, but much of the state is indistinguishable from the midwest, attitude wise.

When I was growing up, I thought everyone from California had a surfboard. I thought every child could swim underwater for 5 minutes, and everyone had seen a dolphin in the wild.

They thought we all skiied. 35 years and counting, and I've skiied 5-10 times. I think it's close to the higher number, but I'm not sure. People around here go skiing like others go on a picnic, so it's not particularly memorable.

marichiko 08-10-2005 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle

They thought we all skiied. 35 years and counting, and I've skiied 5-10 times. I think it's close to the higher number, but I'm not sure. People around here go skiing like others go on a picnic, so it's not particularly memorable.

Gosh, do people count how often they strap on a pair of ski's? When I lived in Durango, I was in charge of opening the library every morning. Our director wanted to break some kind of record, so he never closed the library for ANY reason, not EVER! On bad snow days, I'd strap on my cross countries and ski in to work, open up the library for all the non-existant patrons that day, stack my ski's and poles next to the entrance, go in and make myself some coffee, and spend the day with my feet propped up on the reference desk reading. Now THERE was a cool job! How many times have I been skiing? HAHAHAHAHA! :lol:

Mr.Anon.E.Mouse 08-10-2005 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by marichiko
Ooooh, can we start bashing Californians now? I know LOT'S about Californians. Colorado has Californians like other people have termites. People here have bumper stickers that read "DON'T CALIFORTNICATE COLORADO!" I did have a friend who was from California once. I forget what happened to him. I think he either got shot by a rancher or eaten by a mountain lion. Can't remember now... :apaw: :unsure:

Oh, nothing personal, Mr. Mouse! ;)

Only when it becomes acceptable for Californians to make fun of the bumpkins that insist on moving here to become

A) Movie stars
B) Dot.com tycoons
C) Carpet-bagging politicians
D) Undocumented farm workers
or
E) Rock stars



I have a friend from Colorado, ironically. He loves it here and wouldn't live anywhere else in the world, other than Germany, sans Munich, I think. Thankfully, he's smart enough to realize that people are people wherever you go.

Trilby 08-10-2005 05:23 PM

When I lived in Switzerland I never snow-ski'ied. It was considered 'vulgar', or, in other words, "like some tourist."

marichiko 08-10-2005 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Anon.E.Mouse
Only when it becomes acceptable for Californians to make fun of the bumpkins that insist on moving here to become

A) Movie stars
B) Dot.com tycoons
C) Carpet-bagging politicians
D) Undocumented farm workers
or
E) Rock stars



I have a friend from Colorado, ironically. He loves it here and wouldn't live anywhere else in the world, other than Germany, sans Munich, I think. Thankfully, he's smart enough to realize that people are people wherever you go.

I was just having a little fun with you, Mr. Mouse. I actually do know several pretty cool folks from Cali. My only real complaint against you guys is that you have made Colorado real estate prices go up, cuz a lot of you have moved here and exchanged your more expensive West coast properties for houses here in the Rockies. But I don't blame any Californian PERSONALLY for this phenomenon.

bargalunan 08-11-2005 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Many of us admire that film, which is just called Amélie here. Or even Amelie, without the correct accent.

In France Amelie is called “Le Fabuleux Destin d’Amélie Poulain”.
The director, Jean Pierre Jeunet has realised after : ”Un long dimanche de fiançailles” about the WW1 with the same esthetic. I found it quite intricate with a lot of characters. We must be well awake, and ready to see the same actors than in Amelie plus Jodie Foster. Nevertheless it’s a very beautiful film dealing with WW1 in a realist way. Go and see it ! :thumb:
http://wwws.warnerbros.fr/movies/unl...lash-640.html#
Our last successful film is “les choristes” that reminds me of “Billy Elliot”
http://www.leschoristes-lefilm.com/

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle
Wal-Mart. It's cheap, soulless, mass-produced crap, marketed to cheap, soulless, mass-produced people. I'm pretty sure the mark of the Beast will be that stupid smiley face on the commercials.

“It's cheap, soulless, mass-produced crap, marketed to cheap, soulless, mass-produced people” I will copy it. I hope you’ve got no patent on it !

In France Walmart is still not here but we’ve got clones named : Leclerc, Carrefour, Auchan, Casino… (They sell also lettuce but no rifles !). It’s the same problem. 20 years ago medias were proud to say that we were the first in the world to invent such sh.. and bring cheap material happiness to middle class families (which are sometimes now unemployed). “Communism promised heaven, Leclerc made it !”. Now nobody boast about them.

Is it common in the US to talk about the mark of the Beast ? In France it’s not well known. As we’re a Cartesian country you’ve got chance to be seen as mad for most of French people .
I was looking forWalmart's smiley and found others symbols.
They are not really positive : the 666 gencode over US and the star of the Illuminati… Brrr :worried:

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle
(2) Pierre Capretz,

Pierre Capretz : ???

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Originally Posted by marichiko
I wish the French wouldn't have given us all those existentialists like Sartre and Camus - very depressing.

Yes if you want real French headaches you can read Sartre or Proust. But I’ve appreciated Camus “la Peste” despite it’s not funny.

I’ve heard that French (and Belgian, like French fries) comics are not well known abroad despite the latest ones are very creative. You can have a look at some (sorry it’s not those I prefer) :
http://www.read-box.com/
Clic ENTRER, bibliothèque on top, chose a picture, clic “lancer la lecture”, suite, zoom, suite page suivante…
I prefer page 9 : ”La conjuration d’opale”, ”le combat ordinaire” (excellent, need to be french to understand ?), p13 ”Où le regard ne porte pas”, p16 ”Thorgal”, p1 ”Bételgeuse”, p19 ”XIII”…

If you can find them in Walmart, then they are not so bad !

Urbane Guerrilla 08-11-2005 05:04 PM

Most Americans' exposure to French bandes-dessinées has been either Heavy Metal magazine (Métal Hurlant in translation) or Astérix.

Cyclefrance 08-19-2005 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bargalunan
You can have a look at some (sorry it’s not those I prefer) :
http://www.read-box.com/
Clic ENTRER, bibliothèque on top, chose a picture, clic “lancer la lecture”, suite, zoom, suite page suivante…

Merci beaucoup pour ca - useful and enjoyable way to keep my rusty French from seizing up altogether during the winter months

Mr.Anon.E.Mouse 08-19-2005 12:30 PM

I want to hug some French folks and tell them nice things.

piercehan 08-19-2005 02:34 PM

why we hate the french
 
one good thing about the french! - FRENCH KISSING!!!

Trilby 08-19-2005 02:41 PM

We've already thought of that and the sensual joy that is French kissing still doesn't make up for all the other stuff.

BigV 08-19-2005 02:47 PM

You're jaded.

Welcome to the cellar, piercehan

Mr.Anon.E.Mouse 08-19-2005 03:30 PM

Y'now, they hosted a great World Cup, too.

Queen of the Ryche 08-19-2005 03:32 PM

so what - it's soccer. [ducks and runs]

xoxoxoBruce 08-19-2005 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Anon.E.Mouse
I want to hug some French folks and tell them nice things.

Me too, will you keep a eye out for their husbands, for me. ;)

Welcome to the Cellar, piercehan. :) Good observation, you may have a future as a spin doctor or an agent.

bargalunan 08-20-2005 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Anon.E.Mouse
Y'now, they hosted a great World Cup, too.

Et 1, et 2, et 3 zéro !

mrnoodle 08-22-2005 12:29 PM

kwa?

bargalunan 08-22-2005 01:44 PM

French supporters were singing "et 1, et 2, et 3 zéro" (and 1, and 2, and 3 to 0)
when France won the final against Brazil (3/0) in 1998 World cup.
It was the first time France won this cup.
In 2000 France won the european championship in Holland, becomming the first country to win those 2 tournaments in two years.

DanaC 08-23-2005 07:05 AM

Y'know....as an English bird I have a sort of inherited disdain for the French......but actually on the couple of occassions I have visited France the people have been lovely. They've been friendly and helpful and if you make even the slightest attempt to talk in French they tell you what it should have sounded like then drop into English to be helpful:) Now I am sure not all of them are like that but my experiences of French people have been entirely positive.
Why they may have a beef with Americans? well that is a whole other story. They ( like many Europeans) have seen America grow up into a huge world striding bully with power and arrogance to rival the British Empire at it's height and which percieves itself to be above ( or seperate from) the rest of the world community. ( eg complete disdain for the UN, a refusal to sign up to a world court unless it's own soldiers are exempt and the refusal to sign up to kioto)

wolf 08-23-2005 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC
Y ( eg complete disdain for the UN, a refusal to sign up to a world court unless it's own soldiers are exempt and the refusal to sign up to kioto)

The problem is not that "we" won't, but that "you" did.

Griff 08-23-2005 03:41 PM

I hate them because they continue to whine about Lance making all their racers look like the Nancy-Boy pastry chefs they are.

lookout123 08-23-2005 03:47 PM

i heard today that they've revived the rumors about him juicing so he could beat them.

maybe, just maybe the banned substance that he used was... SOAP. he used said banned substance to cleanse the scum from his flesh, thusly becoming more aerodynamic. you can obviously see how this would be an unfair advantage over the french riders.

bargalunan 08-24-2005 03:50 AM

SOAP ?

Maybe it's the mass murder weapon US are looking for in Irak ? :)

Trilby 08-24-2005 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bargalunan
SOAP ?

Maybe it's the mass murder weapon US are looking for in Irak ? :)

Why, I do believe bargalunan is getting the hang of it!! :) :)

mrnoodle 08-24-2005 09:25 AM

Indeed. good shot.

However, Lance has to overcome an even greater obstacle to win. The wind resistance caused by his gargantuan American BALLS. er. ball. The French don't have that problem, obviously.

bargalunan has vestigal ones, at least, he still has hope.

wolf 08-24-2005 10:17 AM

So, you're saying is that the only reason French women reproduce is tourism, aren't you? You know, that's got a side benefit. Give it long enough and none of the French will be genetically French. There could be some light at the end of the Chunnel!

bargalunan 08-24-2005 12:28 PM

Europeans shouldn’t have reproduced to give birth to ungrateful US children !

In France we say : Little car --> Big penis and Big car --> Little … !

Do you still enjoy your big Pick-up, Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick… ?

To answer you Mr Noddle, as for me I’ve got a very little and nice Peugeot 306 !

Meanwhile I must agree that French people don’t have enough courage to have balls cancer operation as Lance did in order to win races.
Even without doping he deserves winning : Respect !

If because of Monsanto you all get balls cancer, French could help US women… Friendly ! :)

mrnoodle 08-24-2005 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bargalunan
In France we say : Little car --> Big penis and Big car --> Little … !

That's a common misconception. Peugots are for butt pirates. Get a truck. :lol:

wolf 08-24-2005 01:00 PM

What does barg know ... his alternative vehicle is a Citroen, the only vehicle worse than a Peugot.

Hell, Citroens are so bad we won't even import them! We let in the Yugo.

bargalunan 08-24-2005 02:04 PM

Indeed. Citroen and Peugeot make cars for unassisted people able to use a gear lever ! :lol:

PS : it's true Citroen are worse than Peugeot.
They are made by Peugeot but don't deserve this name.

Bye

xoxoxoBruce 08-24-2005 05:34 PM

bargalunan, I like you.
Are you really, really sure you weren't adopted from a foreign orphanage? :lol:

bargalunan 09-05-2005 03:01 PM

:blush:

I will look at my genealogy.
Perhaps one of my female ancestry commited sin with an American soldier.

bargalunan 09-05-2005 03:05 PM

PS : "commited sin" in French means having sex outside the marriage

richlevy 09-05-2005 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
What does barg know ... his alternative vehicle is a Citroen, the only vehicle worse than a Peugot.
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Isn't Citroen French for 'lemon'? It's not like they didn't warn you.

bargalunan 09-06-2005 04:47 AM

Sometimes in France Citroen is nicknamed "citron" (=lemon)

BigV 09-06-2005 11:53 AM

Dear bargalunan:

Here is a picture of an old Citroen. Can you offer me any details? I think it's a model DS, circa 1958...but I know verrrrry little about it, really. Any info?

BigV 09-06-2005 11:58 AM

Another beauty...


edit:

corrected faulty link, thanks wol

wolf 09-06-2005 12:10 PM

Oh my word that's frightening.

(after you correct the URL ... you're missing a "g" at the end there).

bargalunan 09-06-2005 02:04 PM

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You better know French old cars than me. It's archeology !

First one seems to be a DS 21. Its number 75 means it comes from Paris.
Maybe it's a de luxe model with 4 headlights !

Second one, I don't know. Never seen.

Citroen is known for is particular design...

His most famous car was the 2CV (say "duchvo")
still used by seldom lucky students. :)

1st photo : DS 21 1967 and 1969
2nd : 2CV (1945 to 80's)

Do never laugh at a 2CV, it's a French national symbol ! :love:
So good chilhood memories...

glatt 09-06-2005 03:12 PM

The 2CV is a fun little car. Cute in a way. But I wouldn't want one.

glatt 09-23-2005 10:50 AM

I just discovered a new reason to hate the French.

They ruined the perfectly good cover art on an amazing book.

Would you buy this book? Look at that cover. It's hideous.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/22...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

dar512 09-23-2005 11:09 AM

Maybe the French would. Their tastes are different.

Happy Monkey 09-23-2005 01:38 PM

It's not really science fiction either, is it? More historical fiction, I'd say.

Urbane Guerrilla 09-23-2005 08:31 PM

Mmm... four rotor Enigma machine on the cover. As a former Intelligence guy, I'd at least pick it up and see how the thing reads. As a former intel guy, I recommend the book Blind Man's Bluff as worthy of attention from the spy-curious.

Urbane Guerrilla 09-23-2005 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrnoodle
However, Lance has to overcome an even greater obstacle to win. The wind resistance caused by his gargantuan American BALLS. er. ball. The French don't have that problem, obviously.

bargalunan has vestigal ones, at least, he still has hope.

Okay, Nood, let's start singing:

"Armstrong -- has only got one ball!/Barga -- has two but they are small..."

Urbane Guerrilla 09-23-2005 08:40 PM

The last Yugo I've ever seen on the road disappeared from Oxnard, CA two, maybe three years ago. It was red. Rather untidy inside. I suspect its owner (30-something male Caucasian, collar-length dark brown hair, medium build) now drives something a bit ... less surprising. It probably goes faster too.

wolf 09-24-2005 12:47 AM

As far as the question asked by the thread ... I still only get as far as "they're French" and I can't come up with anything else.

WabUfvot5 09-24-2005 03:09 AM

Meet anybody from around Paris and you will know. I believe it happened with DeGaulle pumping up the citizens by letting them think they were the center of the world. Some of them truly believe that.

bargalunan 09-24-2005 07:11 AM

Salvador Dali said the center of the world was Perpignan station (city in south of France).
Even the genious can smoke too much.
Times are changing and France loses its magnificence. So sad...
If he was still alive he would say the new center of the world is Los Angeles. ;)

bargalunan 09-24-2005 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
Okay, Nood, let's start singing:

"Armstrong -- has only got one ball!/Barga -- has two but they are small..."

I know where is Urban Guerrilla's center of the world.
You can't find it on a map, but in an anatomic atlas :D

bargalunan 09-24-2005 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dar512
Maybe the French would. Their tastes are different.

I'm not sure when I see the successful US singers, fastfood and films in France.
And we're going to elect a politician nearly as mad as Bush.

The cover is really awful, so sorry. :(

Griff 09-24-2005 07:45 AM

Aren't many of our jazz singer/musicians more successful in France than in the US?

wolf 09-24-2005 10:58 AM

That's not necessarily a good thing ... Donny Osmond, David Hasselhoff, Jerry Lewis ... you see what I mean?

Urbane Guerrilla 09-26-2005 04:12 PM

:biggrin: Hee hee, Barga.

My Muse ran out of gas before I could come up with anything as good as "Himmler -- his are dissimilar" for a third line -- that's my favorite version of the third line of The Colonel Bogey March (and you haven't lived until you've heard a Japanese JASDF military band playing it!). "And poor old Goebbels/Has no balls/At all" is pretty much an insert-name-here kind of line.


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