Punishment...deterrent...BLAMMO....Hmmm Yeah, it's all about "ME". Nobody seems to care how their (or anyones) actions affect the community, the country or even the family. :(

Yes, my statement about cartoons was in jest. Sorry for lack of smiley. I was always very, very pissed off by the sanitized verions of the Looney Tunes Classics.

And on Tom and Jerry, the old black lady that runs the house has been paled down and given a scottish accent.

that's blasphemy.

Nice, thanks, wolf!

I have a couple of Tom and Jerry dvds at home where the old black lady that runs the house speaks CHINESE! In fact there are two different language tracks in chinese, including subtitles in english and mandarin.

I'm going to have to do some checking. I have volumes one and two of the new golden collections (116 episodes, not including extras) and I have to tell you they look intact. They're supposedly remastered and unedited. The extras even include the propoganda films from the war.

Now I'm going to watch every episode and compare them to the notes.

Dammit...

Yup. One of our cartoons is Porky Pig, I think, and it has him talking to Abraham Lincoln about our history. I'm pretty sure that one doesn't see the light of day anymore....

Wolf: Cool page. I haven't seen that one before. Thanks for posting it.


Sidhe

I like the one that has Porky doing the pledge without 'under god' in it.

Yup...That's the one I meant.

Or maybe not.

Just another step in the chain. Let's just wait a bit longer and see what else comes out.

and that, my friends, is why we don't just kill them all and let God sort them out.

Mebbe someone leaned on the 13 year old pressuring him not to testify? The pizza guy says Tate and there's also a print on the pizza box ... were they printed up some years back at the prison?

This is why gangs use underage members for certain murders.

Welcome to the Cellar, Jordan. :)
You're right and there are to many kids trying to "earn" their way in by taking the job, knowing they will not fry.

i'm not sure what the penalty is matters when it comes to murder. because people don't usually think they're going to get caught for the crime. if they thought they'd get caught, they wouldn't do the murder regardless of whether the punishments was 10 years in prison or if it was death penalty

Still, the death penalty says more than just "we will punish you for your crime" in the same way because you can get life in jail for things less than murder. The death penalty says "We have deemed your actions so abhorent that we refute your right to live". And that's why I'm glad we have it. I don't even think it's punishment, once you're dead everything kind of loses its meaning to you. I'm trying to think of what society used to punish it's worst criminals by not only killing them, but erasing them from all records as if they never existed. Basically saying "You should never have existed on this Earth, we are fixing that problem". Sends a different message, maybe it'll reach its target better.

Quite often is does matter, juveniles are often given incarceration until they are adults then freed to start over.
Thinking they won't get caught doesn't always apply. Juveniles in service to thugs, sort of interns, know their status as a juvenile will get them a lighter sentence and win their place in the underworld. Doing a few years for the "Boss" earns his respect and gratitude.
College and career is not an option, nor even choice, for everyone.:cool:

The death penalty is saying, we don't think rehabilitation is possible, so you're gone. :greenface

*sighs*.... so easily taken in.....