Sorry, but I have to agree with Wolf on this one...you're 8 for 9, at LEAST....

Edit: TS...I guess the best way to see if you're on his list is to comment to him....if he doesn't answer you, then there ya go.

Mandatory birth control for people who are profoundly retarded....at the moment, anyway.

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my ignore list is empty

My buddy list is empty except for one person.

is it you? :D


i'm going to try to put myself on my ignore list now. ;)

didn;t work:(

Give me an idea for an interesting game.

Put certain people on your ignore list and try to come to the same conclusion as everyone else in the same conversation.

I never used the buddy list thing. The only person who has ever been on my ignore list is radar.

i just added clodfobble to my buddy list. she's cool.

how the hell would that work? we can;t come to the same conclusion when we all read every post!

Ok, I understand the point of the ignore list - but what's the point of the buddy list?

I thought the buddy list had a max of like 10 or 11 names?

from what i can tell, it adds 2 empty lines every time you update it


i originally put everyone that was a cmep member on there. plus there are a few i actually like....not to say that i don;t like everyone on the cmep...hell i like all of you...mostly

as far as the point goes, I use my control panel constantly, and it tells me when someone is online. why? i dunno. but i bet it burns dagney's ass that she's on mine.....i think i'm on her ignore list, so she won;t know that i'm talking about her.

So it's more of a stalking list than a buddy list isn't it?

ya know shelb, sometimes you are a little TOO insightful....know what i mean?

besides, i do all of my stalking by looking at the "who's on line" feature mooohooohoooha :D

Originally posted by lumberjim Dude, I'm a guy - I don't get PMX. :)

Me, too! You know, I'm finding out that you and I have more in common than I originally thought. If we're going to sterilize people for stupidity, Radar definately makes the top of that list! I mean how dumb can you get? Make up an enemies list and post it, ensuring that even if those people didn't like you before, they don't now, then blind yourself to their comments while they, along with everyone else can read ALL comments. If that isn't a formula for making yourself a dumbass laughing stock, I don't know what is.

As to the sterilization question, if anyone still cares: I actually agree with you that people who are profoundly mentally retarded should not have children that they can't care for. Its just that I think its up to the parents or close family of the individual to ensure that doesn't happen. It spooks me out to give the government power to sterilize people.

PMX IS AN ABBREVIATION FOR PRE MENSTRUAL CRUCIFIXION....YOU SURE YOU DON'T GET IT?

I put Radar on my buddy list so I can follow his movements (heh, heh, heh);)

I thought that there had been families that tried to have their mentally retarded children steralized that were refused by the courts because the individual's rights superceded those of the parent's desire.

i think radar is cool.

doesn't care if he offends, doesn;t care if you don;t agree. doesn;t miss the goddamn apostrophe key as much as i do, has passion about our country, he's funny, he's rude, he's not afraid of a nice flame fest......plus, he called sycamore "cum bubble" once!

Who would have brought this issue before the court though? If both parents and the doctors were on board with it, and the child was retarded... who filed suit? Is it possible that it was a custody dispute kind of thing?

My mother's friend was advised by her severely retarded son's doctor to have him sterilized. She did.
Jim, you should ask your mother (teacher at Deveraux) about this issue... how commonn sterilization is etc..

Such cases are brought by the State on behalf of the retarded child/adult, typically, usually in the form of a social worker with the Dept. of Mental Health/Mental Retardation.

I bet she could care less.

Well, he didn't put you on his hate list either, now, did he?;)

Could you give us a cite for this, Wolf? If true, it really only goes to prove my point that the government should not be allowed in such matters. :confused:

might have.....he left some uncertainty of the remainder of the list........suspenseful

So, Radar finally made good on his threat, eh? Let's see...

Radar, you're nothing but a wife-buying nigger.

I used the buddy list a couple of times, but it's not very useful for me. Ignore list...I used it for all of 5 minutes once on Maggie.

Fortunately, the only person I have to worry about stalking me on Cellar is UT, since he's the only one that can see me on the board.

well, now that you've quoted it, she'll see it. thanksafuckinglot :)

I doubt it...I don't think she's been on the board much lately. Like everything revolves around you. :)

what, it doesnt;?

what the fuck. I was assured that i was the center of the universe.......
well, i'm still the center of my own attention. alone, restless, breakfast table in an otherwise empty room.

Actually you're the only one on the buddy list.

i am truly honored. no really.

This is a message board, what possible difference could it make if someone else is on at any given moment? If you post, anyone that cares to can read it, even lurkers. Buddy list? Ignore list? It's all a bunch of bullshit, Christ I feel like I'm in High School.:vomit:

yeah, those lurkers freak me out man......

c'mon, lurker, show yourself.

I agree and I hereby deeply apologize to Radar for making fun of him. Radar, your wit and eloquence are something we all (myself included) should emulate. Hats off to you, big guy. (teehee):p

i feel like you went to high school with christ. ;)

......newsflash.....

it's getting very dark and stormy right now, and the salesmen are standing on the stoop clapping for the brilliant flashes of lightning. like it's a fireworks display.........

and you guys wonder why i'm wierd......i hang around these retards all day.

Hmmmmmm.:rolleyes:

Oh, give it a break, Bruce. I'm just kidding around. In all sincerity, I actually would be willing to agree to disagree with Radar, but he shut off that option. (shrugs shoulders) Besides, I was going to take a ride in the mountains today, only instead it rained, so I'm stuck here with nothing to do. You know what they say about idle minds... ;)

Well if he is blocking off most of th people he disagrees with to the point of annoyance ( and thats what his list looks like to me ) then he isnt willing to engage in flamefests at all. If he just flips a switch whenever someone pisses him off so that their posts are no longer there for him to read, then he seems to me to be studiously avoiding getting into any flamefests.

.......Seems odd to me. I dont much see the point of engaging in forum communities if you are just going to sieve out anything you dont like. In the real world RADAR and I could not share air within 100 metres of each other without launching into hostility I am quite sure....But on a forum it's a chance to hear an entirely different point of view......It's also a chance to play out some of that hostility (against the "enemy") in a semi friendly way .....

I'll admit I am actually surprised to find RADAR of all people blocking posts ......I figured him more open to the fight than that.

*remove head from ass* continue conversation. Radar - i am not a big supporter of entitlement programs paid for by tax money - but damn dude - taxes are not a violation of your rights, not all services are evil, and noone is stealing from you.

well, you know what they say about people who only play with themselves???

I agree with you, on both counts.

When a family takes care of a profoundly retarded member, they should watch out for them, in every sense of the word, because they can't watch out for themselves. They're too trusting and can be taken advantage of too easily because they don't understand the consequences of what they do. But when the people are in an institution, there should be a safety net. I know that when I worked at the mental hospital, a few of the patients got pregnant, even with staff members watching them.

One thing I've noticed is that once family members put someone in an institution, it's like that person no longer exists for them. I saw a few family members visit some of the patients, but for the most part, you'd think these people hatched out of eggs and didn't have family. One girl had been there for almost 20 years, and her family just abandoned her there.


Sidhe

you forgot the " " marks around "worked" .....;)

so, i'm visualizing a bunch of people in white coats standing around a bed........

LOL I had to be told that I was on his list...gee I wonder why? Maybe it's because HE'S ON MINE! Whaaatever...:rolleyes:

If I understand correctly, putting someone on your ignore list is breaking the cardinal rule of keeping "your friends close, but your enemies closer"

Or is that enemas?

And has anyone noticed that ignore seems to have the same root as ignorant?

Allow me to elaborate....

When I WORKED (as in I had an ID and could leave at the end of the day, WITHOUT having to get a pass and have someone accompanying me:D ) at the mental hospital, a few of the patients who had ground passes ended up going behind the church (no, I don't know which one it was) and were later found to be pregnant.:eek:

Generally, patients with ground passes still had escorts, btw.


Sidhe

I'm still looking for that particular citation, however, I did find a very good analysis of the topic.

I really miss having a coworker with passwords to lexis/nexis.

Good one, Wolf. I thought that was a fairly logical, coherant analysis of the problem. Its just not a cut and dried issue, by any means.

Taxes are theft plain and simple. Nobody can prove otherwise and are therefore a violation of our rights. Not all services are evil, just those that are funded through theft or coercion. Privately funded social services are great.

How so?

Same old dog and pony show from Radar. I think that rather then arguing the Constitution (which can be vague in some areas, and open to different interpretations of its meaning by everyone except Radar), it might be more productive (or at least more interesting) to discuss the moral and political philosophy from which a culture takes its standards. What is it that we owe society and what in turn does society owe us? How does the concept of enlightened self interest fit into the picture? Given the breakdown of the family unit, does it behoove the government to step in and make decisions for individuals that once upon a time their family members would have made? Tossing in the argument that the "Constitution says or doesn't say" is to me, merely a diversionary tactic, aimed at derailing the original question in matters such as this one.

Scientology can come into your school and claim to be an anti-drug program as a private social service. (true story, look up a group called Narcanon)

They keep an average of less than 15 cents of every dollar for overhead and get the vast majority of money to those who need it, they are people who genuinely care about the plight of those in need, they are not funded through theft or coercion, and they can offer more help even if collecting less money. In short they are better in every possible way.

I'm familiar with scientology... *shudders*

Can you give me a few compny names?

Here's a few links to charities that provide "human services" ranging from foodbanks, to shelters, to many other areas sorted by those who are the most "efficient". When you click on a particular charity it tells you how much they need to spend and how much gets to those who need it.

By looking under "Program Expenses" you'll see the actual percentage of money that gets to those who need it.

For instance the American Red Cross gets 91.3% of the money collected to those who need it.

The United Way gets 95.1% to those in need.

Mercy-USA for Aid and Development gets 93.6% to those in need.

International AIDS Vaccine Initiative gets 90.4% to those in need.

San Francisco Food Bank gets 97.5% to those in need.

I dare you to compare the efficiency, dedication to those in need, etc. of even a poorly performing non-profit charity to government.



http://www.charitynavigator.org/?bay...=29&sortby=rtg

http://www.charitynavigator.org/?bay...=15&sortby=rtg

http://www.charitynavigator.org/?bay...=18&sortby=rtg

http://www.charitynavigator.org/?bay...=17&sortby=rtg

http://www.charitynavigator.org/?bay...=16&sortby=rtg

I also did an analysis of the average of all human services charities from the worst to the best and the average amount they get to those in need is 84.1% which is almost as much as the government keeps for overhead.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/inde...subSector.y=13