Having no way to argue my point, you instead dismiss it.

Adults call people like <b>you</b> "retard" and "cunt", because if it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck...

I stand corrected because that's what I said and that's exactly what I meant.
Your link to the Dayton U. ART III implied that was the law to legitimize your post. That is a lie.
You vilify people then say you were only kidding or being sarcastic. Nice try.
You don't have to worry about the exchange rate because you have have "NO" credibility.

I thought we were only supposed to examine the top layer of what everyone said. You guys have had trouble with implications, subtle undertones, and the like.

Dave, I'll agree that I could have refrained from that comment. I apologize if it offended anyone. Maybe someone could apologize to the girl who was offended by the retard comment, but I won't hold my breath.

Someone who tosses about phrases such as "easily offended retard from the 51st state" (btw: how cliche and tacky) and then follows it up with a kung-pow such as "this is a board for grown-ups" needs to re-evaluate why he is holding his pink bedazzled dunce cap.

So.........anyone heard from Hermit22 lately?

heyward,

you seem smart. A couple of the points you make are well stated. You shouldn't have to stop and clarify fact from opinion. It's tedious. It's even more tedious to argue about it. I have to say, in your defense, that I was surprised at bruce dropping the "C" bomb with very minimal provocation, however, Dave calls everyone a retard.

This is what i meant about knowing the people you're arguing with a little before you take the kind of stand you took. As if it matters by now, I think i am with you on that point as well, syc shouldn't have put the school name/add out there....especially if it is accurate...and he knows it, and he removed it.....too late, though as it still appears in fnf's reply quote. This is a great place to have an argument, but you gotta have somewhat thick skin.
again, i'll ask (no sarcasm this time)
tell us about you. who is everyone here against? The road of a FNG is tough enough, but yours also appears to be uphill after the start you've had.

Phoney links are not minimal provocation.

For the record, I didn't remove it due to any moral issue...morally, I don't think it was a big deal.

granted. i forget. i missed her link the first time, and by the time you pointed it out, the link no longer works, so i never read it. from context, i can infer that she cited a law to back her argument that turned out not to really be a law? what a cunt!

oooooooooooh! sorry! that slipped out. that is the c word, though, bruce. i save that one for really big problems. maybe you could revise it to one of the following:

crapeater
fartknocker
asshat
beeeotch
dirty little whore
butmunch
ignorant slut
craploader
turd
fucker
shitstain
(or other tier 2 swear words)

I'm confused so help me out here. Who said what to you? In this thread or another one? I can't find it.

I think she was referring to the use of the term "retard" in general. Dave used it in referring to Hayward and me earlier in this thread.

I prefer "choad", lumberjim. Hee.;)
Calling someone c**t because they did a quick google search and came up with a site that appeared legit (but maybe not, in hindsight) is worthy of dishing out possibly the most horribly offensive word to call a woman? Hi, Sid Vicous? That you?
Wow. You must be transparant what with having such very, baby-fine, thin skin.
Yeesh!

ETA: lumberjim, I just noticed you have choad as your description. I'll have to pick a new one.
How's about dungslurper?:)

Hahahaha, oh je m'excuse.
Here is the back-up for my above thin-skin comment.

What's wrong with being called a cunt? I really like pussy. I think it's great.

Hell, every single time I've encountered it, it's given me immense pleasure. I worship cunts. They are the givers of <i>life</i>. My daughter was born from a cunt just two weeks ago.

What the hell is wrong with being called a cunt?

The link still works Jim, page 4. But it's not just the link. That was the lie to cover the lie about the law.

Probably because no one has been left alive to report on the reaction of a black woman being called a cunt ...

I just wanted to make sure nobody missed this

i hope you were able to detect the irony of that post. i am confused by your reply.....don't know who you're telling what. who's thin skinned? and dungslurper? your title or mine?

no irony or sarcasm....just so your clear....i dont understand your last post. do it over.

oh, and what does ETA stand for?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

WTG with the 2 year late comeback. BA-ZING!

If I can say something that makes you cringe, I'll say it. Because that's the kind of guy I am. Cunt.

ETA: edited to add.

Quick question.

cunts or just one cunt

I thought they were issued one per female unit.

Could you point out the lie to cover the lie? Just so I know where all my lies are?

Thanks for the info. I'll keep it in mind.
*sigh* Someone missed the femminism train.

Ut ooh. Lampshade used the "f" word

Ah, Dave. How to describe you?
You know the type of person who makes you feel inferior with such supreme knowlege of current events, socio-political issues and with wit that would make grandma shed tears of joy?;
the type of person who leaves you hanging with such curiosity that loins actually quiver with every word he/she writes?;
The type who's very existance makes us all feel as though a higher power has blessed us internally?

Well, that would be Bizzaro Dave.

Real life you?-- a political mess with a head somewhat resembling, both in appearance and psychological depth, a hemorrhoid.

(trying to reconfigure the ignore list to disable specific threads instead of users)

What's funny is that you spent time on that, when I'll smirk and continue to not give a shit what a dumb cunt like you thinks.

A whole minute.
Time indeed.
Bravo!

ETA: during the hish-hash, I've noticed you are only of capacity to use eighth grade insults. Dumb c**t. Wheeee!
Where's the wit?

You're still replying. So don't go on your high horse about how you don't care about this and I'm sitting at home bawling. That's not the case. I think it's amusing, and you're still reading and replying so it clearly matters to you as well.

To give you the same courtesy, I took ~20 seconds and drew a picture of you. I think it's pretty accurate. Have a look and then forward your thoughts to /dev/null.

http://msdelta.net/~dave/images/cellar/hayward.jpg

(A minute is still wasted time. You will never get that minute back. That's a minute you didn't tell someone you loved them or help a poor child have a Thanksgiving. It might not seem like much now, but when you've only got a few left, you might think "Why did I waste all that time at that stupid messageboard?")

Could you just respond to all of my posts in like, say, eight successive posts? That would be awesome.

Well, yes. Dave is a gift to all cellarites. Dont forget though, he's just a program running in some remote server.

I work in mysterious ways.

No, really. You need to break it down more. Each sentence should have its own post.

Incidentally, I post because I find it amusing that you've gotten so worked up over... NOTHING!

That, and you're a tard, for going "Oooh, sarcasm doesn't transfer to <b>written text</b>, waaaaah. But it's cool when I do it, and obviously everyone will understand, Schadenfrau."

Fotze.

Again- where's the snark and wit?

Hayward, look. Can we just have a truce? I hate to admit it, but your words kinda hurt. I understand now that words can hurt. It took you to make me realize. Sitting here behind these monitors, sometimes I feel shielded from the world. Numb. It just hit me though. I really feel bad about it. I'd like to just be friends. Or at least friendly. I'm tired of just having enemies.

Noting the back-to-back posts from Dave.
Can we have a three-peat?

I havent completed the computer programming course, so this is a work in progress. Consider it a lab project.

I'm working on a new Jesus. An electronic one, you know, more relatable for the masses today. This time around I'll call him.....Dave.

Yo Hayward, there's a subtle difference between you and dave that perhaps you hadn't noticed. You have 46 posts of little but trolling crap. Dave has 2 years of thousands of postings of enormous substance. Therefore he is respected and you are not.

This is doubly true because you came on during a time when many duplicate accounts were created in a stupid unsubtle attempt to troll us, and you immediately attempted to defend the trollers.

It's easy to remedy this, though. All you have to do is leave this thread and start posting things of real substance. You will quickly gain a good reputation if you do. That's how this place works.

If you don't intend to do that, you are hereby encouraged to leave.

(She obviously missed the joke, which was indeed posting back to back to make fun of her. I don't actually think she's retarded or particularly stupid, so she must actually be <b>angry</b>. Why else would she not pick up on this? Come on - it was obvious! Wasn't it?)

With all due respect, I attempted to defend a minor's rights, not her value as a person. I said repeatedly that she was an ass, but that did not justify her information being posted on an adult oriented message board. From there, I was called profane names and devalued, apparently (from what I gleaned from your post) because I had bad timing about when I joined.

I did not defend anyone else that I can recall. I will gladly leave this alone, but when people continually post disparaging remarks about me I feel compelled to defend myself.
I also do much extracirricular work for an anti-misogyny league and even more with children's rights in this city so you can understand why april's school's addy plus the word c**t struck a sore spot.
I'll let it alone.

ETA: calling someone a c**t and retorting that they have the psychological capacity of a roid are hardly, *hardly* on the same level.

I think many of us will find that sort of thing very interesting and would like to hear more.

I would start a thread about the word c**t and its various meanings and repercussions to society, but I'm too much of a dick to do that. :)

Well, I've made a thread that maybe you could help me with:)

With all due respect, this really isn't for you to decide. It's all in who gets called what. So maybe to you, getting called a "cunt' is extremely offensive. To 123tess, someone being called "retard" is offensive. To sycamore, whom I call "retard" and "ugly" all the time, he knows I'm kidding and it doesn't bother him (or at least, I figure if it did, he would tell me, because I've been doing it for about two years now and he's never said anything).

Now, you're right, saying that I have the psychological capacity of a "roid" isn't offensive to me - but only because I don't let myself be bothered by what's thought of me by <b>people I don't even know</b>. If you and I were dating, Hayward (and I think I see a future here), yeah, I might get a bit upset. But right now, honestly, it doesn't bother me at all.

If Tony was like "Dude, you're a fucking dickhole", I'd probably be like "Well shit, I'm fucking up. I should tone it down." That's 'cause I know him, and I respect his opinion. Barely a week ago I was sitting in his house getting licked by his dogs. He breaks my guitar strings. We're friends, and his opinion matters. But I don't get worked up over what others think of me if I don't even know them.

The Cellar is, generally speaking, a pretty friendly place. It's a community. You will undoubtedly rub a few people the wrong way. That's normal and to be expected. (I think the only person who never rubbed anyone the wrong way was April. Er, wait...) But if you're actually interested in being a part of the community, you need to be understanding. You didn't do your homework on the cybercrimes thing. Okay. It happens. But when someone comes in so serious as you, it's <b>insulting</b> when things so obviously false are passed off as authentic. I can't speak for Bruce, but I would venture a guess that that's why he said what he said.

As for me, I just like watching people go at it. There, I said it. It's amusing. That's why I dumped fuel on the fire. I don't actually think you're a cunt or a retard. You responded to those words, and so I used them. I actually defended April in a number of other threads. I'm not sure how I feel about the posting of the name of the high school. You and I are probably basically on the same page. And, funnily enough, if we got to know each other, we'd probably like each other. (I see a future here!)

But, here's the real thing, my one piece of advice that I really truly do mean sincerely: <b>chill out</b>. You come off sounding like you're wound tighter than a... really... tightly wound... thing. You're not going to win friends calling them Nazis (if indirectly).

So, like Tony said, it's really up to you. Everyone goes through a hazing. Consider this yours. The question you need to answer is "Do I want to be a part of a relatively intelligent, mostly caring, sometimes bitterly sarcastic online community?" If you do, awesome! We're glad to have you. If not, that's okay too. It's an acquired taste. It's not for everyone (I still don't drink coffee). But ultimately, in the end, it's your choice to make.

(Did I miss anything?)

Fair enough *cyber handshake*
Now get thee heiny to my new thread.

I think I have a crush on Dave now.

I know this thread is over, but I'd still like to address this.

I think people are offended by being called a cunt not because of it's link to the part of female anatomy, but instead what is behind the word. When someone is called a cunt, it is usually in a derogitory way, an attempt to insult someone. And the only reason it has power is because a large number of people (though not a majority) give it that power.

Calling someone a toenail is not really an insult, because no one gives it power. Calling someone a wetback is only an insult because enough people view it as an insult, and, more importantly, beleive the things that go hand in hand with the name.

Calling someone a vagina is not an insult. But calling someone a cunt can be, because of what is intended behind the words. It has nothing to do with what a cunt actually is. But when you call someone a cunt, you are usually not imply that that person is a vagina. Instead, you are insulting that person, you are calling upon all the people who believe a cunt does imply what you are meaning it to imply.

Wow, that sounds really convoluted. SUmmary: An insult only has worth because of what is behind it. We could say that calling a child from virgina an apricot implied that the child was ugly, mentally deficient, and likely to grow up to be a child molestor or rapist. But, until enough people gave that word power, it wouldn't be much of an insult.

So, a word like cunt or bitch or spic is only an insult because people have given it power, because people believe that women are less worthy, that hispanic people are dirty or what have you.

AS YOU SHOULD, GODDAMMIT! I do, of course, rule.

(That was, you know, sarcasm. But not the biting type. The silly goofy type.)

You're talking Theory of Communication 101. Signifier & Signified.

As in the word/gesture/body language is the signifier but depending upon the culture it can signify somethign entirely different from the meaning. Feel free to look up more info on the topic. I forget who came up with this theory.

I think there should be a sarcasm wave "smilie," though I did pick up on yours. =)

Philosophy of Language covers this, too. Which would explain why you can love cunt, but understand why someone would be offended by being called a cunt.

over the past few days i have been viewing this thread with the awed, transfixed gaze that one normally reserves for slow motion replays of firey automobile crashes and shark feeding frenzies on the discovery channel.

*much applause*

If you really want to mess with people try using a word that's not at all typical as a descriptor or insults.

For example:

Q: How do you feel?

A: Tired like a chipmunk.
A: Happy as a chipmunk.

Q: Whats your problem?
A: You're a chipmunk!

Or just for no reason : You're such a chipmunk.

Oddly enough I found that people don't know just what to associate with a fairly cute four legged rodent with a fuzzy tail.

Since Tony added new smilies, my new response is now:

:doit:

Is it wrong that two circles should get me all hot and bothered? (insert boob comment here)

Probably, but since it's me that posted it, it's right in every way.

You know, just yesterday I was bemoaning the lack of :lovers: and :joylove:.

Totally dig :band:.

I guess I can stop saying hail marys

Is the second one for masturbation?

uh, we're gonna need names.

tisk, tisk, a lady never tells.


(is it okay to have profanity there? Am I breaking any rules or anything?)