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Happy Monkey 12-11-2003 04:05 PM

Exactly. My feeling is this:

You do not have the right not to be offended. You have the ability.

insoluble 12-11-2003 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
From a bystanders position, such as yours, I would agree with you HP, but given 99's past commentary to and about me I'm quite sure it was meant as a hurtful remark. Now, not to over analyze this, but if 99 had chosen to refer the reader to def. 8 and based her commentary solely on that, I would definitely not have take such offense, but she remarks about me discussing my CUNT (which is a highly offensive word to a woman, IMO) yet if you read def. 8 it has nothing to do with CUNTS.

Granted, this may have not been what 99 meant by her remarks, but this is how I took them. And if she in no way meant to offend me, then she will in no way be offended by me reply. Either way, it's all good. As far as my emotional skin, I think I'm up to a wet Brawny paper towel strength, well past those "other" brands.;)

So you go away for a while and expect everyone to forget about your prior transgressions - so how about DROPPING THE PAST - especially if that is what you are asking for from others.

wolf 12-11-2003 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juju
What's wrong with being called a cunt? I love cunts!
It's like the difference between having a dick, and being called a dick, juju, only worse.

Way worse.

Point of technical fact, you love pussy (unless I am misjudging you, and I don't think I am in this instance).

There is a difference, in terms of the connotation.

Cunts have higher mileage. With a variety of drivers, so to speak.

wolf 12-11-2003 11:17 PM

I also perceived 99's commentary as an attempt to be helpful.

(and, as to be expected, funny as shit.)

juju 12-12-2003 12:35 AM

I'd say they're pretty different. If someone calls you a dick, that means you're being a jerk. That might well be a valid criticism, in which case I may try not to be that way.

But the word "cunt" seems to serve no purpose except as a button to press in people. Why provide the button? It's pointless. It's just a word.

But yes, I know what you mean.

LUVBUGZ 12-12-2003 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by insoluble
So you go away for a while and expect everyone to forget about your prior transgressions - so how about DROPPING THE PAST - especially if that is what you are asking for from others.
I don't "expect" everyone to forget "my" prior transgressions, as you put it, in which case they have no right to "expect" me to forget "theirs". You see, while I admit to having overreacted at times and hence becoming very defensive, I was NOT the only player in the game. I have attempted to apologize for my part in the never ending flame wars and tried to move past that, but those who engaged in such activities with me will not accept that, nor will they even admit to any wrongdoing on their parts, so at this point in time no matter what I do or say it has been made apparent to me that those efforts are in vain.

So while I would like to DROP THE PAST, it seems highly unlikely that anyone will. Opinions have been made about me and seem to be set in stone. All I can do is continue to try and change these opinions, but I must also say that as long as I am "attacked" by others I will defend myself. I will not sit on my hands and let others call me ignorant, hypocritical, stupid, retarded, etc. when I am not. Yeah, I know at times we have *all* been one or more of these things, but that's to be expected.....we are all human after all, but just because I disagree with someone or have a different opinion on something or someone does not automatically make me stupid or ignorant, etc.

OnyxCougar 12-12-2003 01:10 PM

I would like to note here that I feel that 99's post was not meant as a "gentle jab", but insultive. Not only the reference to def 8 but the use of the "c" word, which has always been and will always be offensive to me.

I think many would agree, that in the "book of namecalling", the "c" word is probably in the top 10 most offensive. This, I feel, is exactly why 99 chose it. A "jab" might be bitch or dumbshit.

And as far as papertowel skin goes, even leather can be cut with a knife.

juju 12-12-2003 02:21 PM

Quote:

which has always been and will always be offensive to me.
Don't you think that's a little closed-minded? I mean, I realize you feel strongly about it, but I just think you'd be a stronger person if you'd just not let it bother you.

Why are so many women so sensitive and lacking in self-confidence?

Undertoad 12-12-2003 02:26 PM

If you can be hurt by the mere mention of a word, you should probably avoid reading.



My actual feelings on the topic are not as flip as this simple statement

FileNotFound 12-12-2003 02:27 PM

Because people raise them this way.

Boys are taught not to cry and not to take insults seriously.

Girls...are not.

hot_pastrami 12-12-2003 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OnyxCougar
I think many would agree, that in the "book of namecalling", the "c" word is probably in the top 10 most offensive. This, I feel, is exactly why 99 chose it. A "jab" might be bitch or dumbshit.
Well, 99 didn't call LUVBUGZ a cunt, she made a joke which included the word "cunt." HUGE diffrerence between "She is a cunt" and "I wish she's stop constantly talking about her cunt."
Quote:

Originally posted by OnyxCougar
And as far as papertowel skin goes, even leather can be cut with a knife.
Poetic... but personally, when I am not wielding my knife as a weapon, I have little sympathy for someone who chooses to fling themselves into it. Someone who takes offense when it is not intended is a fool. Someone who takes offense when it is intended is seven times a fool.

99 44/100% pure 12-12-2003 04:09 PM

Thank you.

xoxoxoBruce 12-12-2003 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FileNotFound
Because people raise them this way.

Boys are taught not to cry and not to take insults seriously.

Girls...are not.

In some cultures boys are taught to kill people that insult them. Girls take insults and perceived insults seriously.

ladysycamore 12-12-2003 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juju
I'd say they're pretty different. If someone calls you a dick, that means you're being a jerk. That might well be a valid criticism, in which case I may try not to be that way.

But the word "cunt" seems to serve no purpose except as a button to press in people. Why provide the button? It's pointless. It's just a word.

But yes, I know what you mean.

But then that would have to apply for EVERY word that someone would take offense to, including "dick" (or being called one).

I've always believed that everyone has a button to push. It may take a while with some, but it's there.

zippyt 12-12-2003 08:46 PM

I saw a sign today that pretty much says it all ,

Argueing with a trucker is like wrestling with a pig in mud , eventualy you figuer out they like mud .

Please for the love of god drop this sorry ass conversation !!!

UT please consider blowing this whole fucked up thread off the cellar . I am gettign sick of seeing LB and every body else argue about FUCKING NOTHING !!!!!!!!!!!

LB is a psyco !!
FNF is an ass !!!!

Who hasn't figuered this out yet ????

LUVBUGZ 12-12-2003 09:42 PM

zippyt
 
It has been noted that several people are not interested in seeing or partaking in THIS conversation throughout the Cellar and for this reason UT has kindly provided this thread for said conversation to occur.

I agree that any issues people have with or about me should be discussed, settled, etc. here rather than in the general forum areas and people have seized the opportunity to do so.

I can appreciate the fact that you are not one of these people so my suggestion to you would be NOT to visit this thread.

Although this thread does consist of a lot of arguing about nothing, it also is an area where hopefully with open, honest communication some issues of more substance can be addressed and worked through between myself and other Cellarites.

If I may also suggest, when you see some flammage errupting outside of this thread that you kindly refer the participants to continue their issues here rather than in the general forum areas. I think this will eliminate a lot of problems with people who are tired of observing random flamefests in the middle of perfectly good threads.

BTW, cute sign, thanks for posting it. :thumb:

Oh, and I'm not a psycho. :)

insoluble 12-12-2003 10:32 PM

so how about posting a pic of yourself in the cellar members image gallery thread lb?

lumberjim 12-12-2003 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hot_pastrami

Poetic... but personally, when I am not wielding my knife as a weapon, I have little sympathy for someone who chooses to fling themselves into it.


fuckin A:thumb:



Quote:

Someone who takes offense when it is not intended is a fool. Someone who takes offense when it is intended is seven times a fool.

did you make that up? sounds like gandhi or budha or someshit......

hot_pastrami 12-12-2003 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lumberjim
did you make that up? sounds like gandhi or budha or someshit......
As far as I know, it's an original of mine, but it may be something that my subconscience quietly absorbed and regurgitated later. I borrowed the "seven times a fool" bit from some other quote though, to lend it a sort of false credibility.

LUVBUGZ 12-12-2003 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by insoluble
so how about posting a pic of yourself in the cellar members image gallery thread lb?
There's a shot of my ugly mug, albeit a 15 year old high school sr. pic, somewhere around the Cellar, I can't remember where? I'll try and find it for ya.

lumberjim 12-12-2003 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hot_pastrami

As far as I know, it's an original of mine, but it may be something that my subconscience quietly absorbed and regurgitated later. I borrowed the "seven times a fool" bit from some other quote though, to lend it a sort of false credibility.


smooth.....did you ever sell cars?

how bout the knife thing? that original too......i mean, two in one post? i am truly impressed

LUVBUGZ 12-12-2003 11:33 PM

BUGZ Ugly Mug
 
The following link may contain graphic images not suitable for young viewers. Parental discretion is advised.

Here it is insoluble.:eek:

LUVBUGZ 12-12-2003 11:44 PM

Well that didn't work out too well, sorry. I was trying to send you do the specific post where I am pictured, but sent you to the thread instead. Anyone know how to do this correctly? If not, scroll down a ways until you come across the ugly person with big hair:eek3:, that would be me:biggrin: .

elSicomoro 12-12-2003 11:44 PM

The link works.

LUVBUGZ 12-12-2003 11:49 PM

Hey Syc,
Long time no interaction w/ you. Yeah, the link works, but I thought there was a way to link directly to a specific post, not the thread in general. Just curious, is there?

elSicomoro 12-12-2003 11:51 PM

You already did it right...the link you created takes people directly to the post with your pic.

LUVBUGZ 12-13-2003 12:07 AM

Colors
 
I'm not trying to bring up a sore subject for some, but I was looking through my Land's End catalog and saw a pair of "Forest Green" (my name for the specific color) fleece slippers I want. I like looking at what companies come up with for uniquely naming regular old colors and given the recent "discussion" of various forms of green (not including teal, cuz we all know teal is teal :rolleyes: ) I thought it humorous that they call this color "Black Forest". Doesn't "sound" like a green, does it?;)

LUVBUGZ 12-13-2003 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
You already did it right...the link you created takes people directly to the post with your pic.
Ok, good. When I click on the link it takes me to the thread, not the specific post, but if it works for you, then I'll assume it works for everyone else. Thanks Syc.:)

hot_pastrami 12-13-2003 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lumberjim
smooth.....did you ever sell cars?

how bout the knife thing? that original too......i mean, two in one post? i am truly impressed

Sell cars? God, no... I would make an awful salesman. I hate interacting with anyone trying to sell me something.

Yeah, the knife thing was mine, too... I was waxing ultra-poetic for some reason. I must have channelled e e cummings again. Damn him. Or, her. Whichever it is. I'm too tired to remember.

lumberjim 12-13-2003 04:13 PM

Re: Colors
 
Quote:

Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
I'm not trying to bring up a sore subject for some, but I was looking through my Land's End catalog and saw a pair of "Forest Green" (my name for the specific color) fleece slippers I want. I like looking at what companies come up with for uniquely naming regular old colors and given the recent "discussion" of various forms of green (not including teal, cuz we all know teal is teal :rolleyes: ) I thought it humorous that they call this color "Black Forest". Doesn't "sound" like a green, does it?;)
take a look through any car brochure......


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