What did Obama do that needed surviving after?

exactly

I'm being coy, I shouldn't do that

shouldn't post at all really never mind

I know what Trump has done (at lest some of it) that needs undoing, which will be a long protracted struggle. How long will it take to stop drilling in the Grand Canyon? The goddamn Cuyahoga river caught fire again! That's how bad it's gotten.

That was the lesson I drew from Obama, myself. Obama never once got my vote -- he desperately wanted socialism, the lesser way, lesser than capitalism, and could not get it -- did a lot for gun sales, too, notably rifles of 5.56mm bore and twenty or thirty rounds' magazine capacity. Semiautomatic, too.

From a far right extremist who was told communism and socialism is same. Since he was commanded what to think, that must be the truth.

Even a budget-minded Pasty-Faced Basementdweller (Alba subterranea) like yourself would have a hard time living on any difference -- and you in particular show zero inclination to ever try it. Along with zero inclination to address civil rights and how to get and keep them -- not your strong suit.

I study; you only know how to type, as you were saying for a while.

Reduced liberty is liberty reduced -- were that the case in the late 1970's, you wouldn't be typing on a computer now. Reduce liberty and you reduce innovation. Undertoad could tell you his new car includes no socialist-developed components. Socialist places produce -- Trabants. For innovation, socialism has to parasitize capitalism.

Griff says it appears as if we are fucked.
That was only a week ago and it is even worse today.
I wish I could find some useful ideas in this thread besides that one.

Trump and his ilk cravenly trade on the conditions that our White history has brought to people of color in this country.
Today it is fear, tomorrow it will be panic and humans have never experienced panic in a population fully armed with semi-automatic weapons.

Only the worst crime of all-- trying to give people healthcare.

If you're trying to cheer me up, you're missing the mark.

Carrying the conversation from the Rims thread to here, a more obvious place for it.


Ignorance is not the same as evil intent, agreed. Beau makes an excellent expansion of this point starting at 6:34. Acknowledging these facts is not a personal attack.

More food for thought, same kitchen. The word "race" does not appear in the video.

What's the point? If my success is 5% or 95% luck so what? I have no control over that so I'm certainly not taking advantage of anyone, not cheating anyone. It's nothing to feel guilty about. Sometimes I come home from the casino with full pockets and sometimes with empty pockets.

Here's another book on race which I haven't read.

https://www.amazon.com/Caste-Origins...9564092&sr=8-2

I did hear an interview with her though and her thoughts would seem to give people wiggle room on the are you a racist question by casting ;) the whole thing as a caste system where folks are given expected roles which they can break out of if they happen to have the right talents. She was very thoughtful about what this means to a poor white. She mentioned that when MLK visited an untouchables school in India he was introduced as an American untouchable which apparently had quite an impact on him.

She wrote a well received book on the Great Migration a few years ago.

There is no reason you can't be here pissing off extremists on both sides.

“Punish” “prosecute” “go to jail”

Interesting how three crimes identified in the circles have three different consequences that get more specific and severe as the chart goes away from fascists and more toward antifa.

“Punish” the murderers, perhaps by suspending them without pay for a day?

Punishment and prosecution of guilty usually include jail sir despite your consideration of a punishment that doesn't include it

The guy who shot and killed the Trump supporter in Portland had been arrested for bringing a gun to an earlier riot, and was not prosecuted because the DA was not prosecuting people arrested in those riots

Support for BLM is falling off probably because of the violence

Support has fallen off probably due to Trump's incessant propaganda against BLM.

That and the slogan is dumb, "Defund the Police."
Without an explanation it's take away money and get rid of the police.
The reaction is WTF, we need police more than ever.
They'll win no hearts and minds unless they come up with something that can be read quickly and is clear.
Maybe "Kill Whitey".

Just like every community I've ever known, the black community I served in north Philly was divided on cops by age. Older people liked them and wanted them around.

Exactly, they'll never get broad support to get rid of the popo.
Better to say, "Police the Police".

Now subversive labels in the market...

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Made me think, if I saw one would I buy it for the novelty or leave it for others to see. I'm not sure.:confused: