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tw 04-04-2019 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1029690)
You're overlooking the possibility of a stalemate with no progress.

No progress means Britain crashes out of the EU. Worse than the deal that May is promoting. But both options are bad for Britain.

At this point, a majority of UK citizens should now realize Brexit is bad. But the power brokers (May and Corbyn) don't want to let British citizens vote for protecting the British economy. So a best option is not even on the table.

Corbyn says he wants to talk with May. Since both want the same thing. And are only arguing over details that cannot change. Either they take the EU deal or crash out of the EU with massive penalties to the British people.

Notice how liars who promoted Brexit (ie Boris Johnson) are nowhere to be seen. They did what they wanted - to wreck shit.

DanaC 04-17-2019 02:28 PM



Very funny

tw 09-04-2019 09:06 AM

Brexit supporters are lied to (just like Trump supporters), see the lie, and still believe and support the liar who only wants to "wreck shit".

From the Economist of 31 Aug 2019:
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ONE BY ONE, the principles on which the Brexit campaign was fought have been exposed as hollow. Before the referendum, Leavers argued that victory would enable them to negotiate a brilliant deal with the European Union. Now they advocate leaving with no deal at all. Before the vote, they said that Brexit would allow Britain to strike more free-trade agreements. Now they say that trading the the bare-bones terms of the World Trad Organizations would be fine. Loudest of all they talked of taking back control and restoring sovereignty to Parliament. Yet on August 28th Boris Johnson, a leading Leaver who is not prime minister announced that in the run-up to Brexit Parliament would be suspended altogether.

His utterly cynical ploy is designed to stop MPs steering the country off the reckless course he has set to leave the EU with or without a deal on October 31st. ... Because he is too weak to carry Parliament in a vote, he means to silence it. In Britain's representative democracy, that sets a dangerous precedent. ...

Of all her mistakes ... Theresa May's gravest was to plant the idea that Britain might do well to leaven the EU without any exit agreement. Her slogan that "no deal is better than a bad deal" was suppose to persuade the Europeans to make concessions.
Like the brainwashed who love Brexit, she also did not get it. Brexit only means more bad for British workers and their economy. How many lies will Boris Johnson (like Trump) state before a brain between shoulders replaces one hanging between legs.
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In fact the government's own analysis suggests that no deal would make the economy 9% smaller after 15 years than if Britain had remained. .... If Britain leaves with no deal it will face even more urgent need to reach terms with the EU, which will demand the same concessions as before - and perhaps greater ones, giver that Britain's had will be weaker.
All that has always been obvious. Brexit is clearly promoted by the many who only want to "wreck shit". The emotional who know only because feelings from their penis prove it.

How many more Boris Johnson lies will be exposed? They come in waves. The brainwashed who swallowed those lies will still support him. An example of how one repeatedly hates himself because he cannot think for himself. Those types can be told to "wreck shit" and therefore know it must be good.

henry quirk 09-04-2019 11:06 AM

"(The British) never, never, never shall be slaves."
 
'nuff said

tw 09-04-2019 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 1038090)
"(The British) never, never, never shall be slaves."

That is what they said in Syracuse. That is what they said in Constantinople. That was obvious to the Aztecs. That is what they said in Africa.

Extremists who are so sure of themselves are among the first to fall.

Andy Grove:
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Success breeds complacency. Complacency breeds failure. Only the paranoid survive.
But only the paranoid who are thinking in adult manner, learn facts, reach a logical conclusion, and ignore their fears. The other paranoia, called emotion, means one becomes entrenched and indecisive. No different from extremists who breed and promote complacency; to also become entrenched and indecisive.

Brexit - because so many are entrenched, brainwashed, and indecisive.

henry quirk 09-05-2019 08:34 AM

"Brexit - because so many are entrenched, brainwashed, and indecisive."
 
Brexit: cuz people wannabe free.

xoxoxoBruce 09-05-2019 09:05 AM

Free from what?

henry quirk 09-05-2019 09:30 AM

extra-national control
 
Sovereignty is passé but some still take it seriously.

xoxoxoBruce 09-05-2019 05:44 PM

After Brexit they still have national and local governments plus royalty. That's free?

tw 09-05-2019 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1038148)
After Brexit they still have national and local governments plus royalty. That's free?

Everything going in and coming out must be inspected and charged custom duties. A big wall must be restored to separate Ireland from N Ireland. We know Brexit will only increase costs in Britain. Major companies are implementing plans to move out of Britain. Toyota will even shutdown a whole car assembly plant.

So yes, they will be freer - from jobs. No problem. Boris Johnson has spoken so many lies that they can also be freed from the truth. Lies will make you free. (Also true when stated in German.)

henry quirk 09-05-2019 06:03 PM

"national and local governments plus royalty"
 
All intrinsic to Britain. What's in your backyard is easier to moderate than what's not. Last time I looked: Brussels was still in Belgium.

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"they will be freer"

Yes, they will be.

monster 09-05-2019 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 1038152)
Last time I looked: Brussels was still in Belgium.

which is only a 5 hour drive from London........

tw 09-05-2019 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 1038152)
All intrinsic to Britain. What's in your backyard is ...

Taking lessons from the master liar, The Don. When caught lying, then write plenty of mumbo jumbo. Limit it to the comprehension level of disciples - 140 characters. Then extremists will believe and know it is true.

Plywood sales in Alabama have spiked now that everyone is boarding up to protect from the coming hurricane. Since that too must be relevant to Brexit.

monster 09-05-2019 06:13 PM

...and they still won't be free to go and buy semi-automatic weapons and shoot up a croquet tournament

henry quirk 09-05-2019 06:26 PM

Brussels
 
"which is only a 5 hour drive from London........"

It could a five minute walk. It's not 'in' Btitain, and is not controlled by the British (just the opposite, which is why a [slim] majority voted to exit).

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You callin' me a liar, tw?

If so: you know where you can go.

Already told you: get it right or zip it.

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"...and they still won't be free to go and buy semi-automatic weapons and shoot up a croquet tournament"

Yes, heaven forbid the British might exercise self-rule, give themselves back private gun ownership, and become murderin' butchers like all American gun owners.

Best to just let 'em go at it with knives...oh, wait...

tw 09-06-2019 08:06 AM

Henry is an extremist. He lies to himself. He even lie about lying. It explains his deviate love of The Don. And loves to "wreck shit". He even lies about that; says it is good.

henry quirk 09-06-2019 09:11 AM

:finger:

tw 09-25-2019 09:32 AM

UK Supreme Court could not be more blunt. An 11-0 verdict said PM Johnson violated the law. It did not take him long (he is an extremist who only wants to wreck shit) - only two months.

Meanwhile the Conservative Financial Times did something extraordinary. They demanded the conservative Boris Johnson resign. They were blunt.
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This ruling leaves a stain on his character and competence. Faced with such a damning judgment, any premier with a shred of respect for British democracy and the responsibilities of his office would resign.
Brexit only exists because these extremists blatantly lied (some have since admitted it) and were believed.

henry quirk 09-25-2019 10:02 AM

PM Johnson violated the law.
 
Bluntly: *impeach him.









*you Brits have sumthin' like that over there? or do you go the 'no confidence' route? How does it work there?

Happy Monkey 09-25-2019 10:06 AM

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This ruling leaves a stain on his character and competence. Faced with such a damning judgment, any premier with a shred of respect for British democracy and the responsibilities of his office would resign.
Is that a demand that he resign? Or a prediction that he won't?

henry quirk 09-25-2019 10:25 AM

these extremists blatantly lied (some have since admitted it)
 
evidence please

tw 09-25-2019 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 1039052)
Is that a demand that he resign? Or a prediction that he won't?

Review history. Watergate. Nixon also lied incessantly. His entrenched supporters refused to demand what was proven necessary.

However, once his lies were too glaringly obvious, the stampede to stop supporting him was massive and fast.

Johnson (like the American extremist president) will lie incessantly while refusing to give in. We know Brexit was promoted by lies. That is not even debated any more. The lies must be so massively obvious. And then a Conservative party stampede must happen to get him to concede.

All this is causing a serious discussion about the need for a UK Constitution. For example, is it legal for Boris Johnson to lie to the Queen? Only extremists deny all this lying has been ongoing. A denial that will continue in the Conservative Party until a stampede suddenly happens.

However that will probably happen to late to save the British economy from damage that will be created by Brexit.

henry quirk 09-25-2019 06:09 PM

Only extremists deny all this lying has been ongoing.
 
No, only extremists will keep makin' claims (look at all that lyin'!) without offerin' a jot of evidence.

But, what the hell: impeach 'em all! Impeachments all around! Bartender, another round of impeachments for all my friends! And while yer at it, take away all them ass-salt weapons too! That'll show 'em!

Let's burn this mutha down! But only within the strict confines of what's allowed by the G.N.D., of course.

And let's lobotomize all the kids, cuz what the world needs now is more Greta (used to be love, then coke, now it's a damaged teen fanatic). Hell, lobotomize the adults too (you know which ones ;) ) cuz how the hell else are we gonna get that 100% compliance we been strivin' for? Damn well past time to dissolve them borders, unify everyone, and kumbaya ourselves into that Brave New Word!

tw 09-27-2019 08:14 AM

Extremists just wanna wreck shit.

henry quirk 09-27-2019 08:45 AM

yes, everything 'you' hold dear I want wrecked
 
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tw 09-27-2019 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 1039140)
...the apes of time.

So you are one of those long haired hippie types that Arlo Guthrie so accurately described?
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Shrink I wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. ... And the Sargent came over, pinned a medal on me, sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

henry quirk 09-27-2019 07:29 PM

"So you are one of those long haired hippie types that Arlo Guthrie so accurately described?"

Actually: I'm bald, dislike dope-smokin', only get violent in defense of self or others, and kinda like Arlo (cuz he was kinda, sorta, a [*leftie] libertarian).









*I can forgive him cuz he made some good tunes

xoxoxoBruce 09-29-2019 01:08 AM

Well Arlo was kind of anti establishment, I mean an electric guitar at Newport Folk Festival! Travesty, how could he, of all the nerve... it fucking worked! :yesnod:

We were doing 120 in 2nd gear overdrive in a '57 Chevy over the bridge into Newport. heh heh

sexobon 12-15-2019 09:55 AM

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Undertoad 01-26-2020 10:27 AM

Five days! Is everybody ready?

fargon 01-26-2020 03:13 PM

Five days until what?

sexobon 01-26-2020 04:30 PM

It'd be a good day for a guy to get married, hard to forget your anniversary!

Luce 01-27-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1045506)
Five days! Is everybody ready?

Yep. I moved some of my investment money into insulin manufacturing.

xoxoxoBruce 01-27-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Luce (Post 1045559)
Yep. I moved some of my investment money into insulin manufacturing.

Novo Nordisk is hot, they spent a Billion dollars to build a plant in the US and are kicking Lilly's ass at almost a third less money. My Insurance demanded I switch.

Luce 01-27-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1045565)
Novo Nordisk is hot, they spent a Billion dollars to build a plant in the US and are kicking Lilly's ass at almost a third less money. My Insurance demanded I switch.

Every manufacturer of insulin will be making mad bank in a few days.

I expect to see a significant jump in price/dose, based on a British demand that will not be met, but will still somehow justify a price increase everywhere.

xoxoxoBruce 01-28-2020 02:25 AM

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I guess not in Illinois...

Luce 01-28-2020 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1045624)
I guess not in Illinois...

Cue the artificial shortage.

xoxoxoBruce 02-03-2020 03:33 PM

Brexit? Ho hum, boring, ours was much better.
Nothing but a few silly dress clowns dancing around...

...and everyone else chewing their nails.

I mean no rocket's red glare, no bombs bursting in air,
giving proof through the night Union Jack was still there.

Amirite!! :haha:

henry quirk 02-03-2020 08:04 PM

Has Britain sunk into the sea yet?
 
Where's my brother, tw, with the analysis?


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