Link, I think it pretty much boils down to: if you think you are, you probably are.

What, we're not doing the branding with hot coals thing anymore?

I always liked that part...

boo fucking hoo. shut the fuck up already.

and also:

i'm guessing that "one" doesn't give a shit about your opinion, or much of what others think, or they wouldn't make their site personal.

Just for the record. Most of the time a slang non-reply is best (just ask around to verify that).

I'll watch for your posts in the future and leave you one of my trademark bizarre comments/rants/replies. I hate people to feel left out.

Re: Re: back in business
 

Well, it might not have happened QUITE as majorly. Be truthful ...

(actually I'm thinking back to when I mentioned to slang that this might be an interesting place to play around in ... I was as amused as well watching those early posts ... still am. Eventually folks find equillibrium, enjoy rocking the boat, or just wander off.)

And link ... it's not a number of posts that makes a dwellar. if you're contributing to the community, even if only in silent appreciation of what , you're still part of it. Speaking up from time to time just makes it more fun.

I have at least one friend who I keep prodding to participate who assures me he's actually been lurking here for years (yes, I do mean YOU) but for reasons of his own chooses not to participate. I keep hoping, though, that one day the thread he can't pass up will come along and he'll iump in. He's part of the community too, even if you can't see him.

I felt bad, until I read the beginning of her post.

Hau ab, Schlampe. I hope you really are done reading here. Tell antibland I said, and sincerely meant, "good luck gettng it up and running". I hope he does well for himself. Perhaps getting rid of you would be a good start.

Ahh.... I remember when i broke my Perverbial Posting Cherry, Since then it's been 2 months of off topic comments and incompleat thoughts that are mostly baseless, not to mention a compleate lack of care twords the rules of good grammar, and spelling.
I am in the infantcy of my Online community postings, and i'd like to thank the Celler.org(tm) for wraping me in their warm bosom.

The Cellar is keeping it real. :)

Re: ^,^^
 

hahaha... if true, it runs counter to form... but I'll not deny it.

Ahhhh, memories.. cookies... richh... and barak. All with the joe editor. Somehow vB code tags seem like cheating.

can we get back to photoshopping, now?

I really miss the cookies too ...

still prowling around
 

:rolleyes: well, Dave. Aren't we touchy?

Damn, but that's funny. PMDD lady callin' DAVE touchy.

I guess Antibitch seems okay... click me

You misspelled warping, Bitmap...:)

Re: still prowling around
 

Yes, just like you're actually interested in swaying opinion. Perhaps you've never heard of "diplomacy". Regardless, that opener of yours sure was a miserable failure at it.

antibland would have had a much better reception if he would have said something like this:

<i>Hi. I'm new here, but I've seen some of the Photoshop creations around here and they're pretty decent.

I'm working on a new design site with the goal of bringing talented people together. I don't have much to offer, but I'm offering $50 in a sort of logo contest for the site. [ Insert criteria here. ]

I hope this isn't viewed as a spam - I don't mean it to be. I just thought some people around here might be interested. If not, that's okay too. Keep up the good Photoshop work!</i>

There would have still been a heckler or two, and he could have quelled their flames with something like this:

<i>Look, I really don't mean to be spamming. I'm just a single person and I don't have much money to offer, but I thought a $50 prize might be a nice bonus to someone that has talent but isn't professionally employed doing Graphic Design. Obviously $50 doesn't begin to cover the fee of a professional graphic designer, but that's not what I'm looking for - more like a college student that just likes doing that sort of thing.

I really didn't mean to offend, though, and if I did, I'm sorry. I thought it would be appropriate to post here, and I meant no ill will.</i>

I doubt anyone would have continued after that.

Regardless, it doesn't really matter - he got a decent logo and looked, to quite a few Cellar residents, like a spammer-type in the process. If he isn't, great! But he didn't really do anything to quell the accusations.

You, on the other hand... are you really interested in discussion? Or did you just want to go around slinging names?

If you want to convince someone, here's a tip: implying that someone is the "Cellar slut" probably will not enlist them to your side, nor make them sympathetic to your position. Just a thought.

unless they are a slut, in which case you owe them back-pay for their time with any accrued interest.

If no one else volunteers to be the Cellar Slut, I'll take the job. After all, I have no other useful skills to offer.

insights and possibilities:
 

But the thing is, Antibland would have been happy to compose a request that was more informal. He is, and is pretty much planning to be in the future, as far as I know, a nice guy. If he had known that was the proper way to go about it and that composing a note like that would have gotten him a more prosperous response, he wouldn't have hesitated to go that way. Most of the suggestion you composed, in fact, would have been exactly what he would have written. He did not come to this site with the intention of looking superficial.

Because of the fact that he was zooming about the web at the speed that he was, however, planting his contest notice as many places as possible, he simply didn't take the time to re-write it just for cellar.org, nor did it dawn on him that it would be recieved offensively, either because it was looked at as spam or because the amount was laughable. I can't say that I blame him, either, for not getting to know the inner workings of each forum he went to. It would have been better, of course, but I'm sure it never entered his handsome little head that the way he did it would have elicited such grief (or entertainment, in many cases). It just....happened as it happened. So you don't have to crucify him for not caring...he would have if he had known.

[By the way, I would also like to state for the record that he is horrified I've even posted to this site regarding him, and has requested repeatedly that I stop since I'm making him look like a pussy (which I suppose I am) in the process. I'M the one who felt compelled to open my big mouth.]

Love, antibitch

PS: To those I've dubbed "Cellar Slut": I didn't really mean it, of course. I'm not one of those chicks who goes around calling girls silly names. I just couldn't resist the consonance, plus it was getting late. :3eye:

You learn something everyday.

AB, nothing wrong with you coming here and entering into the fray. You've improved his standing here. Not that we have any kind of standing ourselves.

[she says, grinning...]
 

Well, thank you, Undertoad. If I wasn't sure you were already taken on account of your sweetness, I'd kiss you and turn you into a prince.

Re: insights and possibilities:
 

What...guys can't be the Cellar Slut? Damn. Thought I'd finally found a fulfilling avocation.

heterosexuality abounds
 

Ok,fine, Elspode. You're a down-home, country-fair, panties-at-your-ankles slut. Is that better?

Re: Re: insights and possibilities:
 

I believe the term is "mimbo." Yep, you're looser than RUN DMC's Adidas.

By God , she has a sense of humor!!
 

You *could* be good here AB. Not as good as Ep (aka Elspode) , not right away anyway, but definite potential........should you choose to exploit it.

(slang loses focus after about 100 words, so he didnt read your previous long post. He apologizes if *it* was funny too and yet not referenced as such)

So out of curiosity what happened at all the other places Antibland posted his contest? Did it get the same treatment?
Since my memory is terrible, where are the graphic changes? Is it me or is it somewhat the same I cannot remember...

Ohhh... can't you just feel the love in this thread now?

I think I'm going to puke now.

:p

Not really, welcome to the Cellar.

You must cross the Pit of Fire to get here. You made it.

Re: heterosexuality abounds
 

Woo hoo! At last, a job with a title!

Is there a certificate that goes along with this? Some people want proof before putting out, and I'd hate to have to disappoint the ladies. I'd keep it in my wallet, right next to a fresh rubber and my HIV-Free testimonial letter from my doctor.

to SHE whom you have dubbed cellar slut. thanks. you know nothing about me, but feel free to call me anything you want. i really don't care because i noticed that while you were attempting to insult everyone else, you took my title up in there.

as far as apologizing goes, don't apologize to me...apologize to dave. you hurt his feelings. i'm his little sister.

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No offense intended, Jeni. I was only defending myself. ;)

Reply to Bitmap about photoshop
 

So you don't use photoshop to design graphics. Just out of curiousity what do you use Microsoft Paint? and I would love to see some of your designs.

Shit, did anyone tell him about the gauntlet? Oh boy...

Well, let's review your postings thus far...

--Ah, I see you haven't insulted anybody.
--You've made some nice contributions so far.
--Nice photos

Yeah, I'd say you're in. Don't be like Radar, Cairo, or Xugumad, and you'll be fine.

yeah, he can't get rid of me.

Re: Re: Re: insights and possibilities:
 

I thought it was "himbo".

I thought it was Mangina? or he-whore?

So, basically, he was posting a commercial message on a messageboard without first getting involved with the community.

In other words, spamming.

And as has been demonstrated, that sort of thing doesn't fly too far around here.

No one doubts he's a good guy. But I think it should be fairly obvious why this whole thing happened.

Honestly, I hope he drags his ass back here, gets involved debating and discussing and proves me wrong. Why? Because I'd rather have someone who actually <b>cares</b> about the community than be right about someone's intentions.

You're welcome to stay, too. That's what the man says, and I tend to agree with him. I'd still say, however, that if you're looking to get flamed off the boards and turn overall opinion against you, your first post was a great start.

Here's something I wrote a while back to someone else, and I think it applies here, so I'm posting it.

As you all know, I'm a new to the cellar. Lurked for a while and threw in my 2 cents (or less) once in a while. Following through this thread has been an education to say the least. It reminds me of watching a drunk at a party going through the mood swings. Jovial, wild, sloppy, contrite, brazen, defensive, etc. etc. Now THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT!!!

I've been staring at this damned edit box for at least twenty minutes, and I swear, I've thought about 10 sarcastic, smart-assed responses... sadly, I can't find the right words for saving my life. And I was pride of my self-taught english.

Aw, crap. Welcome to the Cellar.

the contest is over
 

Check out the page now, and the "logo" the winner submitted.

When i hit the splash page i thought the site might have evolved into some thing actualy kind of cool but it's still rather ugly.....so very..... very... ugly.

Wow. I thought Toad's was WAY better. (And Dave's. And Jeni's. And And's.) ;)

This is what happens when you don't test browser compatibility on your Internet-Exploder-only sites. Notice the bottom of the page is hardly readable.

/Edit - Blast this 102K u/l limit!

There are two useful tools in most modern image editors, crop and resize.

Which requires work. Laziness is the main issue, though I doubt UT has a filter for that.

Punch webscalpel into Google...it references the IotD from 3/10.

The googlebots haven't indexed us in a while... although they have a cached version of the front page from two days ago. I wonder if they have a plan to only index bulletin-type sites every once in a while, or to skip 'em completely. That would be a shame.

Meanwhile it would appear that someone else was cheesed at webscalpel, because another of Google's entries is from a diary site where the guy is right in league with us. Check out the Mon. Mar 3 entry at this link (scroll down, it's near the end):

http://www.evilnet.net/~pgunn/diary/summary.html

Haw. Haw. Haw haw haw haw hee hee hee ho ho hee haw!

Great find, UT!:beer:

I e-mailed the guy last night, maybe he'll post.

The clocks shifted again. I'm sure I've ranted about how much I dislike daylight savings time (well, not the time under the switch, but the fact that there is one), so I won't repeat myself. Still, I'm left much more sleepy than I should be, and I actually should be at work right now. Gah!


I lifted that from his site. At least someone else on the planet thinks time changes are idiotic. :)

Hey all,
Yeah, the webscalpel people put up a lot of
posters and stuff around here. It actually was kind of
irritating that they were just littering so much and making
the neighborhood look trashy :)
Apparently, they must live near me (and CMU)...
Anyhow, this looks like a pretty neat site, so my thanks to
the person who pointed me here. Maybe you'll see me around :)

Welcome Dachte, After reading few of your journal entries I thought you'd fit in. What'd you think of our Logo Designs?