Old & incorrect. Too late though, the damage has been done.

Pot calling kettle black.

Thats racist!

lol

The Telegraph is standing by their reporting. Just cause the campaign says nobody told them that doesn't mean nobody told them that.

Was there an alternative?

What? Political campaign organizations would lie?!?!?!? So it ain't so!:rolleyes:

Who would believe a denial, anyway?

Romney may be making a lot of gaffs on his world tour, and some are
worried about what he might say when he gets to Israel and Poland.

But Ana Marie Cox just remarked that it will not make any difference in the long run,
because Americans have no pride in the presidency.
... after all, we did elect GW Bush... twice.

From what I've read he did rather well in Poland.

Maybe his interpreter is smarter than he is. ;)

Is that a Polish joke ?

Well, he managed to piss off us Brits :p

Is it me ? Romney in Poland sounds like a union organizer.
Next he will be breaking out in song: "Solidary Forever"

NY Times
By ASHLEY PARKER
7/31/12

Romney Lauds Poland as an Economic Model

King Solomon he ain't.
Maybe he can piss off the poles by showing them how he can change a light bulb all by himself.

Christian Science Monitor
Peter Grier
August 8, 2012

Will Stephen Colbert mess up Mitt Romney's VP rollout?

...and as I and my friends break America's unions and ship their jobs to China and India, we hope our friends in Poland can learn from our example.

*snort*

Romney/Ryan: Dismantling America

Hmmm... interesting choice. Looks like it will be class warfare.

or is that Ryan/Romney ? :p

Romney/Ryan - "What's our is ours. Anything that's left might be yours.......for now"

Either way it spells R&R for them and likely T&T (toil and trouble) for us.

That girl wouldn't be wearing a Chinese uniform if Romney was President.

Yes, and then she would have a choice of (four) more colors.

Haha, excellent!

You guys slay.:D

Both Romney and Ryan pressed the fact that Ryan was a man who got things done in Congress. The things he got done in congress in his 13 years? Re-naming a post office and an excise tax on arrows.

Well, there goes the Robin Hood and his band of merry men vote.

Was that the removal of a tax on wooden arrows ?
If so, all Oregon businessmen LOOOOOVE him. :joylove:


Ummmm.....
There's only one company (3 employees) in Oregon that makes wooden arrows. :headshake

Not to mention how pissed Maid Marian is going to be when she finds out how much she'll now have to pay for her birth control under R&R.

Romney chose Ryan because he used to drive a car with a dog on top...
http://cellar.org/2012/oscarmeyar.jpg
Just like himself.

Joe Biden 8/14/2012
Biden was telling his black audience that a Romney-Ryan administration would put the people to whom he was speaking (“y’all”), i.e., black people, back in chains. What other meaning could his statement possibly carry?

Biden's remarks were certainly ill advised, but both sides seem to be playing low and dirty.

And the fun is only just beginning...

He's accurate. Conservatives and repubicans want a cheap labor force, and want to keep all the power and money for themselves. They even want to keep the vote to themselves!

Taking quotes out of their context, as always.

I don't assume when someone says y'all or even 'you people' (as in you people are ruining MY LIFE...oft heard phrase in my business) to mean black people. THAT'S outrageous in a overly PC when it suits you kind of way.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ins/?hpt=hp_t2

Is it me or has this whole campaign been mostly about both sides telling people why they shouldn't vote for the other guy instead of outlining why people should vote for their guy?

It's like neither side's marketers/PACs/advertisements can present a good argument to put their guy in the White House for the next four years, so both of them want to be sure we know why it shouldn't be the other guy.

I agree with Cyber. Biden's remarks may have been controversial, but read what Romney has to say about Obama:

Attack, anger, hatred from Obama? I think Romney is mixing up the president with Rush Limbaugh. IMO, the far right is hands down the winner of the Oscar for hatefulness. They hate single Mom's, no matter what the reason for their plight - they're all welfare queens.

They hate the deperate people who cross the border illegally looking for work. The right's claim is that they come here to jump on all those government "hand-outs" and live a life of ease, smoking pot and watching cable TV. The right forgets to mention that one of the first things most of these programs require is proof of citizenship. It's difficult for an American citizen to get any help from the so-called government "safety net" and next to impossible for an illegal to do so.

The tea party hates the elderly and the disabled and in their online forums they often post that such parasites on society should be left to die. Many states have ridiculous limits for annual income to be eligible for Medicaid. Texas puts the line at $5,000/year. Colorado sets it at $9,000 a year. What a joke! Someome who earns $5,000 a year can pay for medical expenses out of pocket? Yeah, right.

The reason the Romney campaign can offer only attacks and never a solution is that Romney's "solutions" would be rejected by most. Vouchers instead of Medicare? Cutting defense spending costs by going after the VA which is already wildly under funded? Doing away with HUD in an era of recession where more and more families are looking at life on the streets?

No, Romney won't discuss such things. Like the bully on the playground, he'd rather shout nasty names at his opponents then actually stand up for what he believes in. Because what he believes in is a government that benefits the few at the cost of the many. :mad:

I'm in a quandary.
Usually, I despise Maureen Dowd's opinions and
her syrupy soft diatribes on Face The Nation.

But this time, I agree with her.
To post or not to post ? Oh well...

NY Times
By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: August 14, 2012
When Cruelty Is Cute
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Fuck, that's brilliant.

Agreed!

You are forgetting one thing. As McCain noted when the Supreme Court said we want anyone to speak this way. We want the richest to say these things without anyone knowing who said it. No responsibility need exist in free speech, according to the Court. Therefore politicians must also set new records for cheapshot, insults, and swiftboating. They must appeal to what is, for many, the only source of knowledge: emotions.

Anyone can now buy all the advertising they want. And nobody has the right to know who is making those lies. That is good since over 50% of us automatically believe the first thing we are told. Also good because corporations doing that lying are people. Therefore are not responsible for insults and lying. Holding people responsible for their statements is wrong.

Five Justices on the Supreme Court said it is good. Politicians are only doing what the Supreme Court has encouraged. Lies. Nastiness. Fuck intelligence and logic. Profanity is the best proof of knowledge. Because someone, who you have no right to know, said it.

To stay on equal footing, all politicians must appeal to your emotions. It must get even worse. We want it. The Tea Party, Limbaugh, and other extremists thrive on it. That proves it is it good.

Libertarian Party Prepares Philly Ballot Access Fight with Help From Other Third Parties

Looks like same old shit in PA.

It doesn't make sense. With more parties (candidates) for a particular office, it's much easier to manipulate the electronic voting, scattering the Democrats' votes around the minority parties undetected.

The Wrong Side Absolutely Must Not Win
continued here

Dammit. I was going to post.

Brilliant.

Yet very depressing.

Meh. Conserves SAY that the 'other side' is doing exactly what they're doing but I don't quite see it.

Asking for tax returns to be released is certainly more understandable than saying a birth certificate is faked.

Pubs have the corner on evil.

This is the main reason why I will vote for Obama this year. I've heard all the bullshit how the "upper class creates jobs" even though, as pointed out on this site, it is actually largely from the demand created by the middle class. Then, Romney and Paul want to cut taxes for the rich (you know....because Regan said so) and the middle-class (you know....the people that are struggling) have to to pay the bill.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...COX_story.html


Here is the link to the actual report:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/Uploa...Tax-Reform.pdf

Funny how he has discovered the importance of creating jobs in America since he started running for President. Maybe If he and his ilk had taken that stance earlier instead of outsourcing as much as they could to low wage earners in developing economies, their country wouldn't be suffering the way that it is.

I actually wouldn't blame Romney or Bain for the outsourcing.

Right now we are living an increasing competitive globalized world and many of the jobs that were available 20 years ago are disappearing because of the competitiveness. To put it in wording that favors Bain, Bain capital took failing companies, reworked them, and (sometimes) made them successful again. When they "reworked them", they usually cut higher paying jobs and replaced them with minimum wage jobs or outsourcing. While it is obviously bad for the middle class, I see that "reworking" as more reactionary to the current global economic climate then anything else. If this reworking didn't happen, there is a good chance the companies would fail and the jobs would have been lost anyways.

However, I don't see any of this as reasons why Romney should be president.

Remember when "values" were the issue of the Republican Party.In other words: "I have my values, but for nomination as V.P. - I can be bought."
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I agree with your conclusion that Romney's work at Bain isn't especially qualifying for the role of POTUS.

I saw your caveat "language favorable to Bain". But. I don't believe it's realistic to hang the heavy label "failing" on the companies that Bain worked over/with. I would say "vulnerable to takeover and possible dismantling" or "more valuable as parts than as a whole". I know this negates your opening caveat, but I feel it is fairer. Bain was never in the business of "saving" (to counterbalance your tag of "failing") any business. They were in the business of making money. Buy low, sell high, sweat equity into a fixer upper, flip this house/company--that was their game. Not rescuing failing companies.

I agree with you. I do not think companies like Bain Capital should be revered, but I believe there is a market for Bain largely because of the effects of globalization. I doubt anyone can generalize the reasons why other companies went to Bain to help, however, outsourcing and "rearranging" was probably going to happen no matter what in many of those companies. Bain can be looked at, in certain situations, as making that transition easier for those companies at a profit. On the other hand, Bain can be looked at as pushing outsourcing and minimum wage jobs further than they needed. That is more of a capitalism argument though.

I don't like Bain and what they do but I think that other perspective is important as well. It needs to be recognized that Bain is largely reactionary.

Knock knock.

Who's there?

Bain.

Bain who?

Bain the bathtub, I'm browning.

What do you think it is a reaction to?

"Bain is largely reactionary"

I disagree. Bain (and, vehicles like Bain) is (are) the economic version(s) of a maggot colony, eating away at roadkill.

Less the 'reaction' and more a (natural) 'response'.

One of the problems with a vicious cycle is that all of the segments can claim that they're just reacting to the others.

So...the Republican National Convention will be here, where I live, this year. In a few days, actually.

Coincidentally, there is a tropical storm headed right for us. Isaac

We haven't had a "big" one for a very long time and are overdue. :p:

Mayor says he will absolutely evacuate, if needed. Should make for a very interesting week!!

I'd say that is essentially true. The Dems shouldn't allow Bain to be passed off as a venture capital company though. They need a less loaded term for vulture like maybe maggot. ;) A venture capital company risks money supporting new start ups rather than stripping the bones of weak companies, that is, creating jobs not eliminating them.