oh yeah, almost forgot...paul did call the insurance company. not covered.

Awww DUDE !!!

here is the PITA job of the day. the shower pan has to come out to make room for the one we are going to fabricate from concrete. back in the day when this pan was installed they used molten lead to seal the drain. basically that meant that you have to get down there with a hammer and screwdriver and dig that shit out. it took me all of 2 maybe 2.5 hours of hammering chiseling and digging but i got it done. once i was down far enough i used a bigger screwdriver to dig down the the base of the drain and get under the lead thereby allowing me to pry out the lead that was adhered to the pipe. once the pan was out i had to clean up the packing (dirt) that was under the old pan to clean it up for the concrete pan we are going to install. this process begins with making a curb form then pouring the concrete and let it set up for a day or so then once it's set we will put down the rubber pan and then tile it up.

demo is now almost complete. paul is toying with the idea of re-tiling the floor too since we already have gutted the entire bathroom.

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and of course it's not a job unless you give a little blood to the project gods...

Oh There MUST be a Blood Sacrifice !!!

true there. tomorrow if i don't go in early to work on the new deck i have to re-route some romex. no big deal. in the upper corner you can see where the wiring went to power the light over the sink. since we removed the fur down i now have to drill 2 2x4's and pass the cable through them so that the drywall can mount up flush. still trying to decide where to mount the new light over the sink though. on the wall or on the ceiling? dunno. figure that out later.

I suggest the wall. I just like that look better. And don't forget to put in a light/vent fan over the shower and for Pete's sake, make sure the vent exhausts OUTSIDE! I've seen what can happen when the vent exhausts into the attic, a void or once even a dryer port.

Come summer, I may even have a few big projects to share such as shed/barn building. Help is always welcome too! :D

lol right! yeah we are putting in a fart fan. didn't even think about venting to the outside. will go mention that now.

last night i decided to move the electrical like previously stated. MAN did i ever cause a spark! i was working "hot" and while removing the staple holding the romex on i busted through the insulation and ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAP! didn't get me though but sure was bright! :D

i like the wall idea too but paul wants a ceiling mount. oh well.

:facepalm: And you want us to jump into your airplane for a sky trip? :headshake

Which was brighter, the spark...or you?

;)

oh most definitely the spark!

oh and hey! i must be a good pilot......i'm still alive! :D

This is true!

Actually, I would have total faith in your flying ability. I would, however, think you might turn to me and say "here, hold my beer and watch THIS!" Vroooooooooom. I'm fearless in the earthly mortal realm, though.

:lol:

ahhhh yes. the proverbial redneck famous last words... "HEY Y'ALL WATCH THIS!" splat.

You boys need a good fire! Imagine how fast you could build... I admire your grit though.

I'm sure this is a dumb question... but are you certain that's old termite damage? I hope you are treating the ground around the house with termite poison just to be safe, otherwise all your new work could get eaten away again in short order.

just got through doing just that. yesterday one of bobby's friends showed up at work. he's an exterminator. gave me some heavy duty shit to spray. i soaked the bathroom especially the hole in the concrete for the shower drain.

ok. we are finished for the night. you can see in one pic the termite treatment sprayed vvvvery generously around the hole in the house slab for shower drainage. this weekend while i was trying to not get mauled by go kart kids paul put in the shower wall framing. then the framing on the wall behind the commode/vanity wall. the pipes made him do the jigsaw puzzle 2x4s then tonight i re re-wired the ceiling circuits to facilitate our needs. paul did decide to go with a wall mount light like i had hoped he would.

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Looking good.

Question: Those cut up vertical pieces seem to be supported only by the connection to the existing drywall and a little cantilevered action from that stud to the side. I don't really get it. Are they just something to hold the drywall/hardi screws for the new wall? Or are they supported by something solid that I can't see?

ahhh. I got to go take a nap right now...

yyyyeah. i don;t agree with this part of the installation. he needs to notch 2x4s (my apostrophe key doesn;work sometimes and i;m tired of pounding the shit out of it) and put it in there. i asked him about this and i got a mumble answer. errr one i cant remember right now. doesnt make sense to me either. not a load bearer so whatev......

Yeah, I'm sure it's fine. Not the way I'd do it, but the house isn't going to fall down or anything.

actually it is a load wall now that i looked at it again but one stud isn;t going to make that much of a difference. but like you said glatt, the house isn;t going to fall down.

ok time to do some electrical work. remember to always make sure the circuit is off then verify using a voltage tester. most know this but the black wire is your HOT wire and the white one is the neutral. the bare wire is the ground wire, or sometimes it;s green. oh, and when you do test the circuit you should have somewhere in the neighborhood of 120 volts. on this circuit i have 121 but that;s alright.

after striping back the insulation on the wires you then twist them together. black to black white to white ground to ground then use wire nuts on the hot and neutral. it;s always good practice to then seal up the wire nut with electrical tape.

sorry for the somewhat fuzzy pictures. my crackberry is overdosing today.....

the cut outs for the fart fan and a/c duct were a tad off but will be alright because of the flanges on the vent covers. then in the back there is the shower light. the fart fan is on it;s own circuit because i did not want the fan to suck up steam from the shower since it;s not venting to anywhere but the ceiling. i know i know....i tried to tell him. vent to outside but eh.....anyway.

the garage let alone the house is a disaster area right now. here is the new vanity that we are installing. picked it up on what ladies?? yes, we picked it up....on sale! :D $100 bucks.

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ugh....back at it. i can hear paul cussing in canadian all the way up here in my bedroom.

cussing in canadian

Ehh FUCK !!!

lmao yep! and the "awww you mother fucker, you piece of shit, get in there, ahhhh fuck all eh"

edit: now i'm saying that too. smashed my thumb with the hammer.

What's that all aboot? ;)

This is what we did to Kung Pao Kitty yesterday.

What did you do? Btw, that kitty is adorable!

RAWR! I is a LION!

The noble apostropholon returns!

Oh, I see it now. Poor kitty!!!!

it;s aboot pronunciation.

he was trying to screw in sheetrock and kept missing the stud.
*snicker*

omg! kitty been in a fight with the clippers!!

indeed. i have to pound the crap out of that key to get it to work. lemme count here.....

' oh. sure. right. damn thing worked the first time. beh. gonna go grab pics of what we did this morning before i had to drive to work to do more decking.....

phone is seriously smoking crack right now. no pics. maybe later. i have a poker tournament now that i forgot i registered for so...more later.

light sucks with the light on in there and the crackberry really torches the pipe when the light is on. here;s a few pics of what was done this morning before i went in to work.

paul picked up a couple handy tools. he needed to buy a new battery for the drill but it;s cheaper to buy a new drill and get the battery with it. this is what he picked up. a small pistol grip drill and hackzawll by Milwaukee. neat little set cost 150 bones. i dig the charge light....

alright...while paul is sheetrocking the downstairs window in the bathroom i am starting the demo of the shower wall in the upstairs master bath. there is a leak back there that we finally found. remember earlier in this thread we did the floor in there.

demo is generally pretty easy and in most cases quick. total time on this was about a half hour. good news is there is no visible termite damage. the leak isn;t coming from where paul thought. it;s been a pain in the ass trying to find. i think, after going under the vanity and looking at the drain pipes, that that is where the leak is. the rubber gaskets are hard and rotten. now paul is considering taking the tub out completely and replacing it with an elongated shower pan. remains to be seen.

i was apprehensive about how to do the shower pan installation. getting the slope right and all. then i found this:

now paul is considering taking the tub out completely and replacing it with an elongated shower pan. remains to be seen.

Tell him Dont do that , bath rooms with Only a Shower are considered 1/2 bath , he could Devalue his House , call a realtor

i told him what you said. makes sense though. so now we may just keep it in there. it will be a pita either way. replacing the gaskets or even taking the tub out entirely and hauling it down stairs would be a royal pita. i;d rather leave it in place and replace the gaskets.

alright. we went into overtime tonight. after supper we started pouring concrete. i had wanted to get a pic of the shower drain flange and the amount of distance from the floor to the bottom of the flange but paul started mixing concrete and i had to haul butt to help so i didn;t have my camera on me. anyway, there was about a 3 inch gap or more between the existing concrete and the bottom of the flange. i cut off one inch earlier today and recommended more but paul didn;t want to do that. well i finally convinced him. reasoning being we would loose depth of the finished floor if we left it the way it was. so i took off one more inch from the drain pipe then set the flange. we mixed 1 and 1/3 bag of quickcrete and floated in a floor. when doing this sort of thing you want the cement dry. add only enough water to make it moist then use a trowel and level it as best you can using a level. doesn;t have to be perfect. the installation kit we are using makes the slope fool proof.

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now all we do is wait for the crete to cure. in this case we are only going to wait about an hour. then we will set the quick slope installation kit and pour the rest of the crete.

in these next pics, sort of another interactive if you will, we are looking and trying to decide what paint color we want for the walls. the tile is the tile that is going in the shower. i like the darker but the lighter colors also bring out contrast. any thoughts?

we hit a dead end tonight. the ring that goes around the drain is the wrong size. BUT we did get the rubber pan in. first we laid it out then tucked in the corners then located and punched through the drain bolts then put the flange on and tightened it down. after that it was cut to fit but make sure you don;t cut less than 3 inches from the floor. any folds that need to be made can be hidden by the drywall.

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Don't the sheets have to glue together at the seams?

no, not in this case. it was like a 4 x 6 sheet of rubber basically. so you place it in and cut to fit and fold on the seams. at least that;s what we did here. i;m sure there are several ways to do this part of the job. first time doing it so maybe we half assed it. i dunno. more than one way to skin a cat. i figured the weight of the concrete and the mold resistant drywall being mounted would suffice. if there is a better or easier way that you know of please by all means let me know. we may be doing this again upstairs.

i took these pics before i had to leave for work. paul went and got the correct ring so we could cut and mount the slope sticks. then he poured in the concrete.

then while he was doing that i was finishing up the deck installation at work. to space the 2x6x10 and 12;s i used nails and put them between them to give room for weather. the boards will expand and contract in hot and cold weather respectively so you want a little wiggle room. then for the boards that were slightly warped i stuck a crowbar in the ground and leaned on it while drilling in the decking screws. after the decking was complete i ran a chalk line down the sides and trimmed off the excess with a circular saw.

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You get a lot accomplished. I'm impressed.

ty, i try. all it really is though is focus. well, energy too, lots and lots of energy :)

i;m glad i finished that deck yesterday because there are 10 parties booked for today. we thought it was 11 but the manager miscounted. either way 10 parties is a lot and several of them overlap. i betcha by sunset i will have completed my 2 step videos on the proper way a go kart ride should go and the "omfg what are you doing" way. now that is gonna be a fun thread! :D

Ya know, that bathroom job started out with a dripping tap. We'll just replace the washer, they said, but then they saw something else that needed doing while they were there. One thing leads to another ...

yep and that;s what i;m afraid of upstairs. to be honest i just got home from work and didn;t even go look in the downstairs bathroom. i;m exhausted, i got nailed by a kid tonight and almost broke, what felt like anyway, my right foot. got sandwiched between two cars. will have vid later for the thread i;m creating. on a motrin and beer binge, errrr for a whole beer then bed. the new party area was used and rented today. a plus there. we were the busiest ever in the history of the go kart track! we had a line of more than 50 people waiting to ride from 1 o;clock until about 11. gonna hit the rack. later peeps.

the finished party area. done. finished. finis. hoàn thành. завершенный. fertig.