I'm confused. If I misinterpreted you, that's one thing.

But are you seriously trying to claim that a moderator (who one can assume knows the criteria for banning) quoting one of those criteria in reference to a poster is too subtle to be interpreted as a reference to banning? If that's subtle, what is the obvious interpretation?

I would not support Redux banning. What has happened is between him and I, just as it has happened between many others.

I accept my responsibility in the exchange but will not waver from my convictions of my statements...

Carry on.

Like I say every year in the Moderator Nomination Thread,

It's not the content, it's the fucking never ending back and forth for pages upon pages. It's like bickering siblings.

So what is your solution?

Allow his propaganda to stand on it's merit?

Don't worry about it because you're the only one that's reading it?

Ok.

Cry me a river! Now you're the victim here?

How can you seriously and with a straight face talk about propaganda when you flood discussions with more partisan opinions than anyone and try to pass them off as facts?

I provide cites when requested....when I request you to provide cites, your response is "prove my post" is not a fact. And of course if you dont like my non-partisan cities (CBO, GAO, actual language from bills), you call it propaganda.

How can you seriously talk about "fucking arm chair quarterbacks" when you do the same with organizations, the Democratic party, Obama and/or members of Congress that you dont like. You are the ultimate "arm chair quarterback" here, which is your right. The point is your hypocrisy and double standards.

You whine about arm chair quartbacking of Haliburton when you have done the same fucking thing with ACORN.......thats a fact!

All you had to do was say...."you know, you're right...I do what I am criticizing others of doing" and I would have let it pass.

Who spews the hate rhetoric here....characterization people (and parties) you dont like as Nazis and racists?

You know and I know that you cant bullshit me. I'm not part of your family that, for the most part, has chosen to ignore you as a petulant child or cranky old uncle rather than stand up to you.

Bring it on, dude. I'll be on your ass with every partisan post of yours and every example of your hypocrisy and double standards.

Whatever... I will be here to have the "spine" to stand up to the propaganda of the current Administration and those scumbags in Congress who are sending this country to ruin. You guys have been bullshitting the electorate for more than 2 years now.

Whatever? Is that you way of not responding again to the direct points I made?

You do that. :)

And shame on the silent majority here who wont stand up to the ignorance of characterizing people as Nazis and racists.

I'll be here..looking for your next example of double standards and hypocrisy even if others find it irritating.

And shame on those who do not speak about the current Administration and Party in power who continues to let them down on so many levels.

You should absolutely speak out again the Administration and the Democratic party if you disagree with them.

But present facts (objective cites), not partisan opinions with an agenda, or even worse, hate speech.

Now please tell me how your arm chair quarterbacking of ACORN is any different the the "fucking arm chair" quarterbacks of Haliburton that you decry? Two sides of the same coin, dude....but you just cant admit it.

:lol:

Explain to me in detail how "I decry ACORN is any different the the "fucking arm chair" quarterbacks of Haliburton".

I didnt expect you to address it.....you cant deny your double standard, so you spin and you twist and you turn and eventually you resort to childish characterizations (tit suckers) or hate speech.

I'm gone for now....but I'll be watching.

Please explain what my assessments about Haliburton are....

that is all I am asking.

You have made an ASS-sumption about some statement you think I made about Haliburton.

Comparing ACORN and Haliburton are like comparing the Girl Scouts to Planned Parenthood. There is no comparison.

Its simple....replace Haliburton with ACORN here where you decry the armchair quarterbacks:
and my response:
Two sides of the same coin, dude.

In the later, you are the armchair quarterback.

So what is your point? You think you are more right? You think that some group like ACORN that broke the law is above the laws broken by contractors hired by Haliburton? or that in some way Haliburton condoned the law breaking actions of their subcontractors or that the people actually caught on video who represented ACORN were not responsible for their actions?

You have confused the two organizations and how they are structured. Haliburton subcontracts much of their services, ACORN did not. Not two sides of the same coin.

Your arm chair quarterbacking have no basis in fact unless of course you are going to tell us you worked for ACORN.

I did receive the excellent services of Haliburton on a regular basis while on deployment.

My point is simple...apply the same standards to both.

Both received govt funding...one, far more signficantly. Both have engaged in questionable practices...one far more serious (gang rape) and nearly $1 billion in overcharges in the last seven years.

You cant or wont do that.

So Haliburton subcontracts and ACORN has distinct sub-orgs that separate voter advocacy and housing assistance.

One supports the military and one supports disadvantaged minorities (tit suckers)

Why should they not be held to the same standard?

I have never said they should be judged by different standards as you have.

1. Where did I state they should be "judged by different standards"?

2. Where did I state that "disadvantaged minorities" were "tit suckers"?

Really. You are really reaching here and reading into my statements. Obviously reading what you want to believe about me....

Further, how many "gang rapes" happened that taint the whole organization and do you have proof that the organization was complicit? Or was this the responsibility of one person or group of people who should be held accountable for their actions?

Read back..your posts speak for themselves.

Read back...your posts speak for themselves.


Same could be said about the ACORN employees.

Yet, you do not apply the same standards. Read your posts in the ACORN thread and see if you applied the same standard that you propose for Haliburton employees.

Ok, you can't support your statements. Thanks.

Anyone can do some basic research and see the differences between "Haliburton" (or were you talking about KBR) and ACORN. The differences were huge, I mean since ACORN is now gone and Haliburton is still around.

Here is a good little factoid:

ACORN parent group founded in 1970

Haliburton parent group founded in 1910

The differences are just so huge.

You are the only one that said anything about banning. I was reminding them of the fucking rules.
A lot of people, myself included, are sick and tired of the Merc/Redux pissing match being repeated, verbatim, in threads they don't belong. They are more than welcome to take it back where it started, and piss away, till the cows come home, but in this thread they're becoming intolerably irritating.

Just ban us both and be done with it... be sure and send me a message before you do it.

Don't arguments that started over the military fast food thing belong in the military fast food thread? :confused:

What's the big deal? Let 'em have at it. Don't read it if you don't like it. My favorite unwritten rule, knocked into my skull some time ago.

"Well, when I hit new threads it's always there..." Yeah, well I get sick of word association too. ;)

amusement park

[grammar]Him and ME[/Nazi]:p:
FWIW, I interpretted your comment the same way.

Mebbe he meant what happened is between the eyes.

[spelling]interpreted[/Nazi]

:)

mebbeee 'cause he's a potato head.

That's the rule. If you point out someone's misssssstake, your post is going to include a mistake of your own. I'm just following the rules *trying to dance out of this one*

I luvz ya Spexx. Trying for some levity, before I get someone all riled up about church or war or religion or sanctioned pedophilia or queue lines or greed or a million other evils.

Me too

I don't know that joke. Please tell me. I need a laugh.

OK, two Dwellars walked into a bar. The first guy looked at the other one and said "Are you the man who shot my paw?" and the other one put his paw on the counter and said "that's one" and the other one replied "why the long face?"

Haggis! Thanks.:lol:

You're welcome. :)

Though I would like to hear the real joke!

C-man? I don't think Pete's around...please tell me the joke before I die of curiosity!

nope - not after you pissed all over me in the other thread.

OH jesus christ classicman.

Fuck it I give up.

yup - me too.

It's not really a funny joke, but "That's one" has stuck in my head.

That supports the "three strikes and you're banned" interpretation.:2cents:

Thats two

Haggis, you #$@**&%! :p: