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jinx 02-27-2010 09:43 PM
Hard disc drive: 320GB

mbpark 02-27-2010 09:44 PM
Ok, that means it can see the hard drive.

What hard drives does it show under Computer Management on the PC again using ubcd4win?

What does it show for disk 0, disk 1, etc?

Are you using ubcd4win 3.50? That has support for the latest hard drive controllers.

Pete Zicato 02-27-2010 09:45 PM
LJ - it would probably help MB if you brought up the bios screen with the hard drive and took a picture of it. Then post it here. That'll give him the maximum information.

Never mind,

lumberjim 02-27-2010 09:47 PM
working on the pic

lumberjim 02-27-2010 09:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbpark (Post 638062)

Are you using ubcd4win 3.50? That has support for the latest hard drive controllers.
using the one i used to fix the last problem i had....i can't find a version

jinx 02-27-2010 09:55 PM
Quote:
What hard drives does it show under Computer Management
http://is7.itookthisonmyphone.com/m/..._568x426r0.jpg

jinx 02-27-2010 09:56 PM
Ok, bios pic next

jinx 02-27-2010 09:58 PM
http://is7.itookthisonmyphone.com/m/..._568x426r0.jpg

lumberjim 02-27-2010 10:02 PM
looks like our model number is VGN-FW170J. this driver appears on sony's site:

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...=3666&os_id=34

lumberjim 02-27-2010 10:18 PM
so.... should I try installing that driver?

mbpark 02-27-2010 10:20 PM
No.

What version of the Ultimate Boot CD are you running? Is it 3.50?

The reason I ask is because the newer version has the newer SATA drivers.

lumberjim 02-27-2010 10:23 PM
how do i find out which version?

mbpark 02-27-2010 10:27 PM
Go to Start -> About and it will tell you the version number.

zippyt 02-27-2010 10:29 PM
Jim Snagged 4. something last nite

mbpark 02-27-2010 10:30 PM
No, he didn't. Latest version is 3.50 :)

zippyt 02-27-2010 10:32 PM
Scuze me

mbpark 02-27-2010 10:32 PM
Sorry, I just want to make sure he has the latest version that I know has the latest SATA drivers :).

lumberjim 02-27-2010 10:33 PM
i got 4.11 last night.

jinx 02-27-2010 10:33 PM
3.22.00 is the one in the vaio rfn

mbpark 02-27-2010 10:36 PM
Get version 3.50 from www.ubcd4win.com and build that. It has the newer SATA drivers that will let you see the Sony's HD.

jinx 02-27-2010 10:38 PM
ok, on it

edit: what's "build it" mean?

mbpark 02-27-2010 10:39 PM
Make sure you build off of an XP SP3 CD.

mbpark 02-27-2010 10:40 PM
When you build it, you need a Windows XP CD and the program. You run the program to build the CD ISO, burn the ISO to CD, and then run it on the Vaio.

lumberjim 02-27-2010 10:43 PM
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

i have this one, also.... does it have what i need?

lumberjim 02-27-2010 10:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbpark (Post 638088)
When you build it, you need a Windows XP CD and the program. You run the program to build the CD ISO, burn the ISO to CD, and then run it on the Vaio.
'the program'?

XP CD?

like an XP install disc?

mbpark 02-27-2010 10:46 PM
LJ, please run the Ultimate Boot CD for Windows :). It has way more drivers and better support for dealing with the latest hardware because of it. The other CD is good, but it's not going to fix the issues at hand with Windows.

We use variants of it at work for dealing with servers. I have an ISO I use with the Intel firmware update utilities on a FreeDOS image that I remotely boot our servers with to fix firmware issues. I can use the same ISO on desktops or laptops to fix issues. Now that's powerful.

mbpark 02-27-2010 10:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 638090)
'the program'?

XP CD?

like an XP install disc?
Yes, you will need an XP install disk :).

lumberjim 02-27-2010 10:48 PM
this: http://www.tipandtrick.net/2008/wind...n-msdntechnet/

??

mbpark 02-27-2010 10:51 PM
Yep, I used that.

lumberjim 02-27-2010 10:55 PM
will this work?

http://ubcd4win.com/downloads.htm

mbpark 02-27-2010 10:56 PM
Yes

lumberjim 02-27-2010 10:59 PM
well. alright. that looks easier than building my own when i have no clue about that shit.

mbpark 02-27-2010 11:01 PM
It's got very easy instructions to follow.

lumberjim 02-27-2010 11:02 PM
yeah.....but I got stuck on the 'get an XP SP3 part'


so.....

jinx 02-27-2010 11:02 PM
But we're retarded.

lumberjim 02-27-2010 11:03 PM
keep in mind that I can figure out a new car lease payment by hand if I have to.

jinx 02-27-2010 11:05 PM
I make gud soup.

mbpark 02-27-2010 11:08 PM
LJ,

1. Get the XP SP3 CD I mentioned. Copy its contents to a folder on your hard drive.
2. Get the ubcd4win program.
3. Run the program and follow instructions. Like soup.

lumberjim 02-27-2010 11:08 PM
here's how retarded i am>


I downloaded that file from the last link i put up..... but it's an exe. do I just copy it to a blank disc, or execute it and see what happens?

mbpark 02-27-2010 11:08 PM
Run that file.

lumberjim 02-27-2010 11:11 PM
on my HP computer?

mbpark 02-27-2010 11:13 PM
yes

lumberjim 02-27-2010 11:14 PM
I'm scared.


install it on the C: or right to the disk drive?

lumberjim 02-27-2010 11:15 PM
http://cellar.org/cellarchat/

xoxoxoBruce 02-27-2010 11:18 PM
Chat? Thats a big fucking help in the future. :rolleyes:

lumberjim 02-27-2010 11:21 PM
it's faster

lumberjim 02-28-2010 08:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ubcd4win build instructions
It is highly recommended that users copy their XP CD to their hard drive. Simply because it helps reduce read errors from your CD drive and it will speed up the build process. If you choose to do this:
a. Create a "XPCD" folder on one of your internal hard drives.
b. In Windows Explorer, select from the menu: Tools > Folder Options > View tab.
c. Check that the [show hidden files and folders] radio button is selected and the [hide protected operating system files] is unchecked.
d. Now copy the folders and files from your CD drive to the "XPCD" folder on your hard drive.
I'm using a computer that has Vista to do this. I don't see folder options anywhere. i got the xp sp3 iso from microsoft, burnt it with nero, and just copied the entire disc to a folder on my desktop. (if i double clicked, it wanted to install xp on my computer).... which, by the way, i would be happy to do if it would get reid of vista effectively?

going to try to build this thing now..... wish me luck

lumberjim 02-28-2010 08:44 AM
right away it can't find some i386 file. i have it searching......taking a while....meanwhile, I'm dl'ing the builder exe onto this XP machine...

mbpark 02-28-2010 08:45 AM
ok...you can build it on Vista or Win 7. Just make sure you right-click and select "Run As Administrator".

mbpark 02-28-2010 08:53 AM
In the folder you created from the CD, i386 should be right there.

lumberjim 02-28-2010 08:54 AM
did not find any valid install files. wtf....

lumberjim 02-28-2010 08:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbpark (Post 638144)
In the folder you created from the CD, i386 should be right there.
created from which CD? should I run the XP install disc?

mbpark 02-28-2010 08:57 AM
Put the CD in and look on the CD for the i386 files :)

mbpark 02-28-2010 08:58 AM
Don't run the XP disc, just put it in your drive.

lumberjim 02-28-2010 09:01 AM
1 Attachment(s)
if i put it in, it wants to auto run.....

i right clicked and copied the whole disc to a file on my desk top.

here's what's inside the first layer:

mbpark 02-28-2010 09:03 AM
there's no i386 folder. You just have a CD with XP SP3 on it, not the full installation CD.

If you google, you will be able to find one easily.

lumberjim 02-28-2010 09:08 AM
would you mind pointing me to a link? I keep going around in circles.... i don't have a torrent program.....and don't want one.....

lumberjim 02-28-2010 09:11 AM
hxxp://online-share.org/software/operating-system/456-windows-xp-professional-sp3.html

this?

lumberjim 02-28-2010 09:21 AM
does microsoft offer this full version for free? or is it all updates?

lumberjim 02-28-2010 10:50 AM
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for fux ache


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