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Flint 02-24-2009 01:44 PM

fixed ur chart
 
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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 537383)
I'm sorry, this is the only chart that matters:


piercehawkeye45 02-24-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 538341)
I havent met many anarchists who weren't lefties, but that might be because I am in the UK. I think our political spectrum is subtly different.

Anarcho-capitialists exist in the United States but anything that has the legitimate label of anarchist is leftists. That's what I have seen at least.

Flint 02-24-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 538352)
Anarcho-capitialists ...

I thought that was a kind of techno.

sugarpop 02-24-2009 07:29 PM

Libertarians are both left and right. It depends on the KIND of libertarianism you support (corporate, personal, or both). Same goes with anarchy. It doesn't matter what country you're in.

sugarpop 02-24-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 538089)
Just because anarchist/socialists share some common views about government does not mean they are even close on the spectrum of common thinking.

That's because you don't understand the concepts then, or aren't willing to look at them objectively. If you can't see where they are compatible, then I'm not going to explain it to you. I've done that numerous times on SMN, and I know you've read the argument. On most political charts (like some of the ones posted in this thread), anarchists and socialists are in the same quadrant.

TheMercenary 02-24-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 538441)
Libertarians are both left and right. It depends on the KIND of libertarianism you support (corporate, personal, or both). Same goes with anarchy. It doesn't matter what country you're in.

I see, now you want to qualify it. Mk.

sugarpop 02-24-2009 10:03 PM

whatever dude. you are just being argumentative.

TheMercenary 02-24-2009 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 538546)
whatever dude. you are just being argumentative.

Not whatever, back up your statement. They are not similar ideas.

sugarpop 02-25-2009 01:02 AM

Look it up. Every political chart out there supports my statement. At least, every chart I've seen. In fact, look at some od the charts already posted, and go read about them.

Clodfobble 02-25-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
fixed ur chart

I beg to differ. I have known some very smart douchebags. For example: an ex-boyfriend who has a PhD in math and now teaches at CalTech. He once threw a math textbook at my head. I am willing to concede, however, that very few people can successfully populate quadrant I.

DanaC 02-25-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 538812)
He once threw a math textbook at my head.


Just be glad he wasn't a historian...weighty tomes

Flint 02-25-2009 07:29 PM

He threw a math textbook at you? That...isn't very smart. QED™

Clodfobble 02-25-2009 09:10 PM

Well, it's possible I might have been a legitimate threat to his safety at the time. One can never tell.

Wraith 03-01-2009 12:19 AM

I saw this video in revleft.com (morons), one of them said “if a republic is the rule of law as opposed to the rule of the mob, then who makes the laws?”…. I think thats a misconception, the republic’s constitution is the higher law of the country that guaranties respect for the property and rights of all their citizens and according to that principles all the other laws are created by representatives elected by the people who also must respect and honor the constitution.

Although it focuses on the political issues rather than economic differences of totalitarian governments it is undeniable that all of them opposed political and economic freedom.

Wraith 03-01-2009 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 538441)
Libertarians are both left and right. It depends on the KIND of libertarianism you support (corporate, personal, or both). Same goes with anarchy. It doesn't matter what country you're in.

Left libertarians are ignorant people who full themselvs believing they can be free without private property and individual rights.

Libertarianism may have started as a left ideology but it has evolved to a greater concept of personal liberty, respect for the rights of the individual and political and economic freedom.

Aliantha 03-01-2009 03:55 PM

:welcome: Wraith. Enjoy your time here. Hope you've got thick skin if you're planning on spending much time in the politics forum. ;)


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