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Shawnee123 11-20-2007 09:32 AM

I agree that the spite threads suck. So, ignore those threads. Easy peasy japanesy. Coming in with a "hey yeah, that guy DOES suck. Let's take action" solves nothing.

Mockingbird 11-20-2007 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 408946)
I can't help it that I'm cute.

But don't convolute your posts as "I'm just helpin'" and bat your eyelashes with a "who me?" It just doesn't fly.

lj is right, we should have a say. Therefore, you suggesting voted bans goes against everything you said about having the right to your opinion...your vacillation rivals some of the pros around here.

So wink wink nudge nudge.:rolleyes: :cool: ;) :blush: :D

That's MY opinion.

I'm not just 'trying to help', I'm trying to get rid of them because they annoy the shit out of me and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

I'm not sure how many times that I have to state that to you before you understand that it's just that simple, but I guess I'll post it again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 408950)
I agree that the spite threads suck. So, ignore those threads. Easy peasy japanesy. Coming in with a "hey yeah, that guy DOES suck. Let's take action" solves nothing.

So when you see a problem in you just ignore it rather than take action? I hope that's not how you solve problems.

Shawnee123 11-20-2007 09:35 AM

Oh, I'm an idiot, mock. Please say it over and over again until it sinks into my pretty little head.

I'll say this again: DON'T LOOK AT THE THREADS THAT MAKE YOU SAD.
It's just that simple.
Quote:

I'm not just 'trying to help', I'm trying to get rid of them because they annoy the shit out of me and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
IGNORE THEM. This brings me back to my original question. Who appointed you Grand Poobah of all that is right and good for the Cellar?

LJ 11-20-2007 09:39 AM

we had a vote...did you miss it?

back to you, sir.

Mockingbird 11-20-2007 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 408952)
Oh, I'm an idiot, mock. Please say it over and over again until it sinks into my pretty little head.

I'll say this again: DON'T LOOK AT THE THREADS THAT MAKE YOU SAD.
It's just that simple.

IGNORE THEM. This brings me back to my original question. Who appointed you Grand Poobah of all that is right and good for the Cellar?

Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away. And, fuck, once AGAIN no one appointed me anything, I'm just saying how I think it should be done. If ignoring is working for you (and since we're having this conversation it obviously isn't) then go for it. It doesn't work for me.

Shawnee123 11-20-2007 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mockingbird (Post 408951)
So when you see a problem in you just ignore it rather than take action? I hope that's not how you solve problems.

You are a quick to judgment one, aren't you?

Another way to put it: I don't get along with a coworker. Instead of learning to work around that, as an adult would do, I will gather as many people together as I can and launch assaults to get rid of that person. Is that how you solve problems? Get rid of them? What happens if your kid errs in his ways? Put them in a home? Dog pees on the carpet, put him to sleep? Anything to take it out of the equation, what a wonderful world it will be.:eyebrow:

Shawnee123 11-20-2007 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mockingbird (Post 408955)
Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away. And, fuck, once AGAIN no one appointed me anything, I'm just saying how I think it should be done. If ignoring is working for you (and since we're having this conversation it obviously isn't) then go for it. It doesn't work for me.


I am completely happy. You are making me laugh. This is just a happy debate, eh?

I say we gun them all down! I'm the decider! :lol:

Mockingbird 11-20-2007 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 408956)
You are a quick to judgment one, aren't you?

Another way to put it: I don't get along with a coworker. Instead of learning to work around that, as an adult would do, I will gather as many people together as I can and launch assaults to get rid of that person. Is that how you solve problems? Get rid of them? What happens if your kid errs in his ways? Put them in a home? Dog pees on the carpet, put him to sleep? Anything to take it out of the equation, what a wonderful world it will be.:eyebrow:

If your co-worker was sexually harassing you and throwing insults at everyone what do you think would happen? Everyone would ignore it?

Kid starts misbehaving? Corrective punishment.

Dog pees? House training.

The slippery slope argument isn't going to be effective here. In most cases and in most situations, problems are solved by corrective action rather than by just letting shit happen.

LJ 11-20-2007 09:45 AM

you two are ruining this argument thread with your agrument, ya know.



it's very hurtful to me

TheMercenary 11-20-2007 09:46 AM

Well just don't start voting to ban people based on popularity, I don't want to leave yet.

ZenGum 11-20-2007 09:46 AM

"You are a diseeeze. I am da cure." [/stallone]

Shawnee123 11-20-2007 09:47 AM

This is what is great about this place: we're all different and see things in sometimes completely different ways. My argument is effective whether you choose to agree or not. Corrective action? By whom? You? OK, write a report, investigate, schedule a meeting with the boss. Or just decide who belongs and who doesn't. You're apparently more than qualified.

Shawnee123 11-20-2007 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJ (Post 408963)
it's very hurtful to me

Sorry, LJ! There, there (can't find the headpat smilie)

:)

Mockingbird 11-20-2007 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 408967)
This is what is great about this place: we're all different and see things in sometimes completely different ways. My argument is effective whether you choose to agree or not. Corrective action? By whom? You? OK, write a report, investigate, schedule a meeting with the boss. Or just decide who belongs and who doesn't. You're apparently more than qualified.

No, the slippery slope is a bad tool in a debate because it is easily deflected. Exaggerated examples of what could happen are just that -- exaggerated. When did I say I would be deciding? I said put it to a popular vote.

LJ 11-20-2007 09:52 AM

you have the ability to instigate that vote.

sycamore tried it on me once. it was cool. i got SO much attention.

i wish i could find that thread.

Shawnee123 11-20-2007 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mockingbird (Post 408971)
No, the slippery slope is a bad tool in a debate because it is easily deflected. Exaggerated examples of what could happen are just that -- exaggerated. When did I say I would be deciding? I said put it to a popular vote.

Exaggerated notions of what is right and wrong are just that--exaggerated.

Go ahead, get a vote. I think you will find that most Cellarites will not vote to ban an established individual, whether they like said individual or not. With all our faults, arguments, and jeering, we understand that with the good Cellar comes some bad Cellar. But I, for one, appreciate your efforts to clean the place up for us.

LJ 11-20-2007 10:01 AM

we could have a vote in general terms. no specific names mentioned?

LJ 11-20-2007 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 408977)
Exaggerated notions of what is right and wrong are just that--exaggerated.

Go ahead, get a vote. I think you will find that most Cellarites will not vote to ban an established individual, whether they like said individual or not. With all our faults, arguments, and jeering, we understand that with the good Cellar comes some bad Cellar. But I, for one, appreciate your efforts to clean the place up for us.


you just like him cuz he has a big wang

Shawnee123 11-20-2007 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJ (Post 408980)
you just like him cuz he has a big wang

Who has a big wang? Man, story of my life. Big wangs right in front of me and I miss them. :(

Mockingbird 11-20-2007 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 408977)
Exaggerated notions of what is right and wrong are just that--exaggerated.

Go ahead, get a vote. I think you will find that most Cellarites will not vote to ban an established individual, whether they like said individual or not. With all our faults, arguments, and jeering, we understand that with the good Cellar comes some bad Cellar. But I, for one, appreciate your efforts to clean the place up for us.

And look, all bickering aside, I just don't think it's right to throw hurtful insults at people on purpose. That's all. I have to go to work anyway so the poll will have to wait for a few hours unless someone else wants to post it.

That said, if Drax and Spex suddenly stop then I don't have a problem with it. I've just seen them say that they would stop before and nothing happened.

Shawnee123 11-20-2007 10:11 AM

Hurtful insults are thrown around here all the time. Hell, I've gotten my share after I behaved like an ass. I don't get why you're so concerned. Are you a sock puppet?

TheMercenary 11-20-2007 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJ (Post 408979)
we could have a vote in general terms. no specific names mentioned?

I vote no unless I change my mind.

Drax 11-20-2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LJ (Post 408939)
I LIKE arguments. especially when they get really nasty and twisted. you learn so much about people when theyre at their worst.

Well, you're the one with 11 accounts. Get into a heated debate with yerself, and let us watch. :p

Big Red 11-20-2007 12:07 PM

boy this thread has not improved yet!

ZenGum 11-20-2007 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drax (Post 409031)
Well, you're the one with 11 accounts. Get into a heated debate with yerself, and let us watch. :p

I've been wondering if TW is UG's sock puppet or vice versa. Just wondering.

DanaC 11-20-2007 12:12 PM

ZenGum you just broke my worldview....

lookout123 11-20-2007 12:12 PM

nah, that wouldn't be logical. and emotional. that's bad, mmkay? and creative too. *shiver*

jinx 11-20-2007 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 408991)
Hurtful insults are thrown around here all the time. Hell, I've gotten my share after I behaved like an ass. I don't get why you're so concerned. Are you a sock puppet?

:lol2:
That was your funniest post yet.

ZenGum 11-20-2007 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 409044)
ZenGum you just broke my worldview....

Ooops, sorry. Let me fetch my WorldGlue.

Well my other theory was that it was one poster with severe personality dissociative disorder (split personality).

EDIT I think I've been in the East long enough now ... I'M seeing everything as Yin and Yang, opposites drawn out from the one, and destined to reunite. But I'm very tired.

Cicero 11-20-2007 12:32 PM

Zen....you are feeling very sleepy...your eyes are getting very heavy....:) You muussst quit posting...when I count to three you will be asleep and not post until I have snapped my fingers 5 times....
Sleeepy. 1-2-
Let's see if this works...
:)

monster 11-20-2007 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 408991)
Hurtful insults are thrown around here all the time. Hell, I've gotten my share after I behaved like an ass. I don't get why you're so concerned. Are you a sock puppet?

He certainly needs a sock for his puppet....

Spexxvet 11-20-2007 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mockingbird (Post 408742)
Catty remarks now and then is fine, but making thread after bullshit thread of bile is just stupid....

I agree.

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=15141

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=15516

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=15398

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=15248

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=14230

lookout123 11-20-2007 01:50 PM

seriously spexx, get over it.

LJ 11-20-2007 01:54 PM

5 threads? if you had listed 9 or 10, i might be moved to agree that you've been right all along....but only 5?


what other interests do you have, spex?

Drax 11-20-2007 01:56 PM

Oooh, this is gettin' goooood. **grins eeviilly**

LJ 11-20-2007 01:58 PM

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the fearfully aggressive, hornet nest kicking, shadow fearing, damaged goods, envious of everyone, yet attention whoring, giant poking, dimwitted bravery of a savant retarded bottle washer having malcontented system blaming bug fucker, needle dicked shitbag that can't tolerate the smell of his own skin, dung sniffer and child porn surfing butt plug wearing, mouth agape panting feces smearing nutcase that personifies our very own dwellar, spexxvet.
you gotta admit.......this part was pretty fucking funny.

Spexxvet 11-20-2007 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LJ (Post 409086)
..what other interests do you have, spex?

Dude, 150+ posts, and you're in the chat room talking about me. Talk about stalking - what would you do if I didn't post? Your life would be empty. You're creeping me out.

LJ 11-20-2007 02:37 PM

IM UNDR YER SKIN KICKN YER NUTZ

LJ 11-20-2007 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 408748)
yeah but i started a bunch of threads trying to get rid of lumberjim, but that guy stuck around until just recently.

seriously though, i hear what you are saying, but i think that the reason that the cellar has survived for so long is partly due to UT having such a slooooooooooooooooooooooooow trigger finger on the banning.

teh aforementioned UT:


elSicomoro 11-20-2007 08:09 PM

Oh, wow...what's up, guys? Where's the Kool-Aid?

kerosene 11-20-2007 08:11 PM

I saved some for ya, syc.

elSicomoro 11-20-2007 08:15 PM

Is it grape? I really like grape Kool-Aid.


kerosene 11-20-2007 08:20 PM

No, its some kind of newfangled grape-cran-blueberry.

Clodfobble 11-20-2007 10:01 PM

Cranberry juice is the work of the devil.




However, completely-fake-jellied-cranberry-"sauce"-from-a-can is awesome.

ZenGum 11-20-2007 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 409055)
Zen....you are feeling very sleepy...your eyes are getting very heavy....:) You muussst quit posting...when I count to three you will be asleep and not post until I have snapped my fingers 5 times....
Sleeepy. 1-2-
Let's see if this works...
:)


Mhhuuuhh? What happened? Where am I? Where did everybody go? How did all these posts get here?
Oh damn I'm late for work. Damn you Cellar, dammmmnnnn yooouuuuuu!

Kitsune 11-20-2007 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 409039)
boy this thread has not improved yet!

I blame all the noobs.

http://fox.org/~vince/out/noobs.jpg

lookout123 11-20-2007 11:07 PM

feels weird that all those kids are 35 and up now.

Kitsune 11-20-2007 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 409187)
feels weird that all those kids are 35 and up now.

I thought the systems were TI-99s at first, but they don't have a cartridge slot. Any idea?

lookout123 11-20-2007 11:44 PM

i know less than this ------><-------- much about computers.

thealphajerk 11-21-2007 02:24 AM

i have no idea what those are, but they look like a barrel of fun.

i'm a damn newby, i think you guys are welcoming..

just because your anonymous doesn't mean you HAVE to be a complete knob to everyone, right?

elSicomoro 11-21-2007 08:40 AM

Depends on the weather...check back in an hour. :)

lookout123 11-21-2007 09:52 AM

weird. sycamore i know someone posted in between our posts but i just can't be bothered to read it. was it anything important?

anonymous 11-21-2007 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thealphajerk (Post 409205)
just because your anonymous doesn't mean you HAVE to be a complete knob to everyone, right?


who you callin anonymous, buttercup?

Trilby 11-21-2007 01:06 PM

um....what have I missed?

glatt 11-21-2007 01:29 PM

lumberjim goes by LJ now. That's about it.

LJ 11-21-2007 01:32 PM

and we discovered that glatt has some kind of weird wrist fetish he's been hiding from us.

and sycamore came out of the closet...

...oh....and Led Zeppelin broke up....apparently the drummer died.

Andoria 11-21-2007 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsune (Post 409184)

OMG that's me in that pic

... >.>

And I think they're learning LOGO.

Aliantha 11-22-2007 07:12 AM

Looks like I haven't missed much.

Can you lot let me know when you've figured out the meaning of life please?

Sheldonrs 11-22-2007 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 409482)
Looks like I haven't missed much.

Can you lot let me know when you've figured out the meaning of life please?

Anal sex. It's the meaning of everything.

Razzmatazz13 11-22-2007 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs (Post 409486)
Anal sex. It's the meaning of everything.

Aw man...I've been spending way too much time in chat....I read that without looking at who wrote it, and I thought it was LJ. :headshake


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