:mg: No obligatory goatse or snarky comments for the n00b? Color me flummoxed.

But thanks.

Nah, we don't count it as much fun until we know what your weak points are ;)

Yeah...just wait DM, the best is yet to come. ;) lol Believe me, it'll happen if you say something which someone considers to be stupid or naive or ignorant or unfunny or...or...or...

Or Caturday?

Nah, no worries, I'm aware of forum protocol. Moose out front told me. I'll try to slip up soon though for your n00b-bashing viewing pleasure though ;)

They might let you get a hundred posts or so up before they do that though. Lull you into a false sense of security, then pounce on your arse. :D

Well hello DS! Welcome to the Cellar. Unusual handle you got there....is there a story behind that name?

Yeah Whats the deal DUDE ??



Oh and Howdy !

Yeesh, is this a forum or an episode of Oz? Ok, so invest in some soap-on-rope and don't piss off the poofters. I think I got it, thanks for the heads up :thumb:

Ha, no, not really. It was a spur-of-the-moment idea for an insulting name for my neighbor when he was cheating at NBA Jam when I was about 12. We laughed for about 10 minutes at how stupid it was, and I don't think I've thought of it again until I needed a user handle when signing up here. Go figure, the things that come to your mind when you least expect them... I usually use Tracer Bullet, but that sounded a little pretentious to use in a place where I don't know anyone, so dingleschmutz it is.

Heidy-ho.

Dingleschmutz is a waaaay better name than Tracer Bullet imo *smiles*

Agreed

Edit: oh yah...:welcome:

Hmmm...I'm feeling like the dingleman just slammed me. lol

Bastard!

Don't you mean....

Cock!


(Well it's how I got welcomed.... http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=374859&postcount=74)

hahaha...lucky you.

Jimbo is always so nice to new people.

Actually, I have to say you've gotten off very lightly and I think it's thanks to the little chat room that some people think they should complain about even when the marvelous UT has done the best he can to satisfy the whiners among us.

*cough*kissarsedrunksluzza*cough*

bitch

http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics...with-lawye.jpg

Ha, nah, I'm unarmed in cellar-world, I'm behaving right now. Just a little dingle-charm for you.

Really, come on now, she's a flamboyant prostitute! She lacks many of the prominent physical features of a true ho... I mean Jamie-Lynn Discala even played her part in...

Ok, I'm ruining your joke, my apologies, it did make me roffle a little on the inside. Speaking of escorts though, I should probably stop derailing this thread and explore some other areas. Do I need someone to hold my hand when I step out of here, or am I going to be eaten alive regardless?

Also, I'm assuming this UT fella is the resident deity of cellar-world? Do I need to pay tribute somehow?

Tip Jar, bottom of the page

or just brown-nose a little. your call

How tasty are you?

The Mighty Undertoad is indeed the Supreme Being of the cellar. Tribute may be paid via the Tip Mug at the bottom of the page - this goes to running expenses, not to him personally.

I doubt you'll be eaten alive unless you go around :stickpoke ing. Mind you, there are a few dwellers who I simply wouldn't bother getting into a serious debate/argument with, their minds being so firmly set that no evidence or reasoning will change them :banghead: - the evidence and reasoning being filtered and interpreted in the framework of their existing beliefs. I'm not going to mention any names; a little browsing of old threads (politics and current events are rich fields for this) will wise you up.

Dingleschmutz is a bit long ... do you have a preferred nickname? Dings ok?

No offense, but with the exception of fish and chips and their far superior beers, do Brits really have a concept of what is tasty and what is not?

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Hmm, dang. I was tributed a whole slew of virgins this month, and I couldn't possibly eat them all, I was hoping they would suffice for the great Undertoad. Oh well. I hope he forgives me if I wait a little while to see how much I like this place before I throw him some coin (which I will if I do). And Dings works for me.

Ahh crap, guess you can't edit your posts here. Please forgive my n00bness on the quotation...

this from a yank.......?

:lol2:

Try the edit button. Bottom right of post, next to quote

Fair enough. Ok, I'll just assume that I rank somewhere in between blood pudding and shepherd's pie on the tastiness scale.

Maybe this is a donating member option? This is all I got...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/jiwig/cellar.jpg

It takes a few days for editing powers to kick in, as with thread starting. Monster's been here so long she's forgotten.

i think that the edit time has been shortened, though. it used to be 11 hours.....but i was unable to edit one after 6 hours the other day.

did you change it, UT?

Hey Freshness! Your poll is missing something. There should have been a special option to check .... "whale penis".
sloppy, sloppy ... :lol:

Wasn't an issue when I joined, back in the days when noobs had class.... I thought it was just thread starting that was restricted. mybad :p

I was unable to edit after an hour yesterday...

Yesterday, I was into an edit after 29 minutes, and got rejected because 30 minutes had passed before I hit save. :p I have found you usually get longer than that.

Good excuse for post-whoring, says I.

Hai, I has edit powrz nau.

Does that mean I'm official?

That just happened to me. I like to be able to edit longer in...often I go back and tweak the wording a lot, usually to refine the language, rather than change the substance.

It means you're being drawn in by the cellar.....One of us...one of us...

i blame jinx

I don't care... in fact I'm all for it... doesn't take even 1/2 an hour to figure out to spell something.

i tend to agree. editing after longer than that is more often used for chickening out of saying something, and erasing it.

There's a difference between chickening out of saying something...and realising you've been over harsh and modifying your tone in order not to hurt someone, or inflame a situation. I rarely do that unless it's within a minute or so, usually at my first rereading.

Jinx, it's not just about spelling. If you enjoy language, then the changes are often more to do with sentence structure, or better, possibly more accurate wording. I post, then I read after I post. I do this because I simply do not pick up on most of the changes it 'needs' until I see it on the board. I then reread it, and make minor changes and alterations, or add something with an [eta]usually to clarify or mitigate a comment, or add some fresh detail that I have recalled (when posting an anecdote). I post it again and read from the screen, spotting odd things and going back in to edit this word, or add that extra adjective. I jump about between the edit screen and the board screen until I feel I am happy with my words. I am usually very careful with language and part of that comes from this refining process. That process can easily take me half hour or more. Even for simple changes, there are many times I've been editing when the phone's rang, or mum's turned up for a visit...I leave the screen there, til I've dealt with whatever and return to it as a work in progress.

Half an hour isn't long enough to me. Just my opinion...but it will mean i need to change my posting habits and behaviour and I didn't feel they needed to change.

This has, presumably been changed in order to prevent the more dubious use of editing, but I do feel it also limits those who do not engage in that behaviour. Certainly I would prefer the old system. I can live with the idea of a few pricks deliberately abusing that editing function, in order to have a very practical and useful function for others to use.

Would it not be better, if such a thing is possible, to let the moderators impose edit limits on people if they are regularly using the function in ways which people consider to be malicious or unfair?

Hey..there's nothing wrong with changing your mind about calling someone a filthy word is there? ;)

There's no setting for individuals. I figured that the edit feature was clearly meant to fine-tune or edit posts for a short while. If 30 minutes is too short, maybe 45? Any longer than that and we are certainly talking about changing actual content of posts and everybody has taken advantage of that.

Can we not have a two hour limit and encourage people not to abuse it? Very few people, in my experience, edit to the point it's a problem; most if they've done so accidentally will, when its pointed out apologise for it and be more careful in future. I would say there are less than 5 people in this enire community who actually use it with such intent, except for the odd spate of joke editing between a couple of the (mainly) lads.

When I mentioned taking a phone call, I am often called by people with complicated and difficult to explain issues, whch take some time to get straight, and are followed by a phone call (s) or email (s) to someone else.

Hell sometimes I have the post back up in the edit box and end up going to make a cup of tea or take the dog out whilst ii mull over a bit of wording. Not so often, but often enough. I don't think (?) I've much of a history of pissing people off with those edits...I may be wrong :P Half the time, it's not even going to be re-read by people, but that doesn't mean I don't want to get the wording right...or improve it.

Why impose stricter limits when the problem you seek to solve seems (to me) such a minor one?

IMO, 30 minutes is enough time. I almost wish there was a setting that once someone's replied to a post, it can no longer be edited.

Personally I'd prefer it to go back to what it was before. I think that worked reasonably well, was rarely abused and didn't need to change. But I haven't had to deal with any malicious editing...is this something a lot of people are unhappy about?

Blue, 30 minutes may be plenty for you. For some people ten minutes is fine, for others an hour is constricting. If I am able to edit for 2 hours, this doesn't prevent you editing within the 30 minutes that you feel is enough. If the limit is 30 minutes, that does lprevent me editing within my preferred timeframe.

in real life....you cannot unsay something you've said. many people read and react to posts within minutes. if you come back and change something, you make them look foolish. they cant tell that you edited your post unless they re-read....and how often do you do that?

good move UT.

maybe take a moment's pause and proof read your posts before you hit send?

Maybe one hour as a compromise?

i would suggest that you quote yourself and rephrase or restate...like you would do in real life.

Dana--true, if I do edit at all, it's usually within a few minutes. I just find it a little annoying sometimes when I've replied to a post, and then find out later that the post has changed completely.

I'm fine with 30 minutes. there are/have been people who abuse the editing facility to incite trouble, either by annoying people then removing the content so the annoyed people seem unreasonable, or by making accusations against unpopular posters thus opening a floodgate then removing/changing their trigger so appearing innocent. if your going to fight, at least show your colours.

It's a bulletin board. Typos and poor sentence structure are excused. Mostly. Except from asshats who claim to be grammar wizards. I'd rather deal with the errors than the trolls. it's not an English exam.

jmho

I say take all the time you want to compose your post, and then post it when you're ready.

I had an instance a few weeks ago where I'd posted a comment and really needed to get rid of the comment at the request of another poster after a number of hours had passed.

UT was quite happy to remove the comment for me for the benefit of another poster.

I'm sure there have been a number of instances where this has happened to others also.

I actually only realized there was a time limit on editing posts when that situation arose. I don't use the feature all that much other than to slightly change or add a word (which probably wouldn't make any difference to anyone else anyway). I delete a post shortly after I'd posted it recently though because even I thought it was pushing the envelope a bit.

I think that it's important for us to all remember this is not real life and the same rules about saying and unsaying don't apply. That's the good thing about the written word. There's always room for editing.

That's fair. But I don't like it. I am more comfortable editing after I have seen it as it will appear on the screen. It's like the difference between reading what you've typed in word and seeing it printed on paper. That's when I spot errors, inconsistencies in language, stuff that triggers a thought that makes me want to add something. Just the way my mind works.


At the end of the day I am one person, so it isn't that important.

On rare occasions I have posted something, edited it and someone's response has clearly been to the earlier draft. I have usually volunteered an apology to that person and pointed out to them that I have since edited the post. I would imagine anybody reading that exchange would not think the person posting after me looks foolish when it's made clear they're responding to something else.

As I said earlier, this change means I will have to change my posting habits and behaviour. Currently this is not what i do, because it not what i am most comfortable doing. I am therefore going to have to change the way in which i interact with the board (not the people :P). If it has to be, then it has to be, but I don't like it :P

Are you still using the quick reply thing, Dana? There is a print preview option available in the regular reply setting, so you can see exactly what it looks like.

Today a person emailed me about a post they made in 2004. They wanted their email addy removed from it.

I made the edit.

That's reasonable.

hmm...ok...I'll try and remember that. I always use the quick reply. Only really go to full reply if I'm lookin for smilies. *nods* that might work. Doesn't solve regretting saying something...though I tend to do that fairly quickly...on the rare occasion I've been angry enough (usuallu because I'm actually angry at someone/something else in rl) to let something unpleasant stand an hour or so, I've always checked to see if anyone's posted after. If there's nothing after it, I might nip in and edit and put an explanation ("Overly harsh") in the edit box. If there's anything after the reply I just post as normal with a climbdown.

I'll start using the full reply mode more (she says typing into the quick response box) :P

Was gonna suggest what monster said, the preview post options works well.

You can still type in the quick reply box, but then hit "Go Advanced". I prefer the bigger box to type in, in the regular reply mode anyway.... no wonder you need to edit.