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lookout123 04-28-2005 02:33 PM

yeah they are different. but similar in some ways. the person who lives behind me shares a common wall with my yard. i wanted to visit him iwould have to drive about 1/5th of a mile to his house. fortunately i don't like the guy, so i don't have to worry about doing that. :eyebrow:

OnyxCougar 04-28-2005 03:18 PM

that is a similar setup, glatt, but there is also a walkway between the red line that is shared wall. so I would just have to walk through to the next complex

mrnoodle 04-28-2005 04:31 PM

Are the roads inside the communities maintained by the city/county? or by the neighborhood? If my taxes are paying for the roads, I want to be able to move freely on them without regard to yuppie snobbery -- tear down the walls. But if they're maintained by a road association within the community, they have the full right to pave them with gold and exclude whatever traffic they desire.

smoothmoniker 04-28-2005 05:43 PM

the only way it can be walled off is if the whole thing is private property - roads, parks, main line to utilities, everything. All maintained through association fees.

lookout123 04-28-2005 07:01 PM

in walled off communities they are paid for by tax dollars, just like every other road. you can drive through the neighborhood if you want - but there is no need to as you will generally just go in some sort of circle until you find an exit out.

if it is gated, the neighborhood has to pay for initial construction, but i believe they are maintained with tax dollars.

Griff 04-28-2005 08:21 PM

Some gated communities are not as secure as you'd expect.

Beestie 04-28-2005 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
if it is gated, the neighborhood has to pay for initial construction, but i believe they are maintained with tax dollars.

The developer pays for the initial construction then deeds it over to the community association who is then responsible for it. It remains private property throughout and no tax dollars are ever used on it.

lookout123 04-28-2005 11:14 PM

ok, i just know that in my old neighborhood which was gated that the city crews did the maintenance.

Tonchi 04-29-2005 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Beestie
The developer pays for the initial construction then deeds it over to the community association who is then responsible for it. It remains private property throughout and no tax dollars are ever used on it.

Beestie is correct. The object of the game is for the developer to skimp and skip as many things as possible to create enough semblance of a street and utilites so that he can dump the whole thing on the homeowners association and run. My gated community got left with more than $40,000 worth of debts for work never paid for and mostly not inspected. What was a beautiful pond behind my house when they were selling it to me is now a stagnant ditch with all the fish and plants dead because the complex manager knows nothing about maintaining landscaping and the builder did not line the bottom. The City or County will never be obliged to pay for ANY repairs or improvements to anything behind our gates, unless we are taken over by their Health Department because of a fortuitous outbreak of Bubonic Plague.

SILVERWOLFNC 04-30-2005 05:12 PM

Gated communities are also turning up in conspiricy theories that G W Bush is using these to start the one world one relegion order and these are just ways to train people for the upcoming events. That if they ever get the Constitution ammended where Non-
American born citizens can be president The Governer of California Arnold Schwarzenegger will become president and turn this county into another Nazi Germany

lookout123 04-30-2005 05:31 PM

WTF? :3_eyes:

Beestie 04-30-2005 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SILVERWOLFNC
Gated communities blah, blah, blah G W Bush blah, blah, blah one world one relegion order blah, blah, blah train people blah, blah, blah Constitution ammended blah, blah, blah Arnold Schwarzenegger blah, blah, blah Nazi Germany

I've seen more rational posts inscribed in urine on NYC subway walls.

xoxoxoBruce 04-30-2005 10:05 PM

Really? You go around reading urine inscriptions? :lol:
Maybe Breakingnews can hook you up with a paper to read.

Seriously though, you've got to give him credit for creativity and most certainly for originality. OK, not so much on believability but maybe he can tell us how he arrived at those...um..thoughts.

wolf 04-30-2005 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Beestie
I've seen more rational posts inscribed in urine on NYC subway walls.

No, that was the Virgin Mary, wasn't it??

Griff 05-01-2005 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SILVERWOLFNC
Gated communities are also turning up in conspiricy theories that G W Bush is using these to start the one world one relegion order and these are just ways to train people for the upcoming events. That if they ever get the Constitution ammended where Non-
American born citizens can be president The Governer of California Arnold Schwarzenegger will become president and turn this county into another Nazi Germany


I'm begging you to develop this storyline. Start a thread.


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