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xoxoxoBruce 04-29-2005 04:10 AM

AGAIN, yeah, so what can we do about it?????? :eyebrow:

Troubleshooter 04-29-2005 09:01 AM

Well, the appropriate liberal response would be to file a class action suit on the part of all of the funny looking kids, give them all 15 million dollars, feel good about ourselves and then promptly forget about it.

wolf 04-29-2005 11:01 AM

The lawsuits for Vietnamese citizens have been filed.

The class action lawsuit on behalf of vietnam vets settled so fast (back in 1985?) that ONLY people who had designated themsevlves as part of the class could recover damages, and no one after that date is permitted to identify themselves as part of that class, and no one can initiate a new lawsuit on behalf of vietnam vets.

wolf 04-29-2005 11:11 AM

Oh, and Dioxin exposure tends to cause an assortment of particularly nasty and usually rare cancers, leukemia, and some skin rashes. In children exposed in utero or possibly resulting from contamination in male or female parent spina bifida is the most common, with some other conditions (Achondroplasia, Cleft lip and cleft palate, Congenital heart disease, Congenital talipes equinovarus (clubfoot), Esophageal and intestinal atresia, Hallerman-Streiff syndrome, Hip dysplasia, Hydrocephalus due to aqueductal stenosis, Hypospadias, Imperforate anus, Neural tube defects (including spina bifida, encephalocele, and anencephaly), Poland syndrome, Pyloric stenosis, Syndactyly (fused digits), Tracheoesophageal fistula, Undescended testicle, Williams syndrome)
being identified as qualifying vets for benefits if the condition is not congenital in his/her family.

BigV 04-29-2005 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worldpress.org
Who Poisoned Yushchenko?

Zornitsa Stoyanova-Yerburgh
Worldpress.org contributing editor
December 13, 2004
Yushchenko before and after his poisoning

Ukraine's opposition presidential candidiate Viktor Yushchenko before and after his poisoning.

Austrian doctors have confirmed that Ukraine's opposition presidential candidate Victor Yushchenko has been poisoned with dioxin. The highly toxic substance was ingested orally and was probably given to him by a "third party."

http://www.worldpress.org/Europe/1995.cfm

Perhaps not Agent Orange, but dioxin.
before and after

BigV 04-29-2005 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worldpress.org
Who Poisoned Yushchenko?

Zornitsa Stoyanova-Yerburgh
Worldpress.org contributing editor
December 13, 2004
Yushchenko before and after his poisoning

Ukraine's opposition presidential candidiate Viktor Yushchenko before and after his poisoning.

Austrian doctors have confirmed that Ukraine's opposition presidential candidate Victor Yushchenko has been poisoned with dioxin. The highly toxic substance was ingested orally and was probably given to him by a "third party."

http://www.worldpress.org/Europe/1995.cfm

Perhaps not Agent Orange, but dioxin.

http://www.worldpress.org/images/121...BeforeAfte.jpg

busterb 04-29-2005 02:16 PM

By God! Big V, You do try to get your point across.

BigV 04-29-2005 02:21 PM

*ahem*

Thanks busterb, I wrestled with the image link and didn't notice that the "rough drafts" were still posted. Sorry for the wasted resources.

deleted mistakes now.

wolf 04-29-2005 03:15 PM

You missed one ...

warch 04-29-2005 03:42 PM

Well, the appropriate liberal response would be to file a class action suit on the part of all of the funny looking kids, give them all 15 million dollars, feel good about ourselves and then promptly forget about it.

No. I think the appropriate liberal response would be to investigate the claims further ( a lawsuit is obviously neccessary to demand governmental and corporate attention), build a working relationship with the Vietnamese on this issue that strives to move beyond political games, respond with justice and compassion to the afflicted- including any Vets still suffering, to those found to have been made ill by our toxic dump or those at continuing risk, this compassion taking the form of funding internationally collaborative healthcare support, environmental education, and cleanup as possible. The appropriate liberal response I think, is rational and civil.

wolf 04-29-2005 03:43 PM

Is that before or after the traditional knee jerk reaction?

warch 04-29-2005 03:50 PM

Apparently, decades after.

glatt 04-29-2005 04:07 PM

If ever.

xoxoxoBruce 04-29-2005 06:14 PM

Since nobody seems to have a way to clean it up, and it doesn't appear to be abating, the obvious solution is relocating. I suggest Texas. :cool:

LCanal 04-29-2005 08:38 PM

Untill then I'll look forward to a remake of John Candy's ConeHeads


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