Lsyc - please name a couple of organizations that are strictly for the advancement of the white man, and give specific examples of why it is designed to exclude others or hold them back.
the argument that everything is designed to advance the whiteman just doesn't hold water anymore.

*shrugs* If you say so. That's your opinion though. I feel that the deck is still stacked against non-whites.

As far as orgs, I already named one...in fact you named it first on your list: the NAAWP. You can go to their website and see for yourself. Plus, you can easily do a Google search under "white supremacy groups" and see plenty of groups designed for the advancement of the white man and their mission statements.

*reaches for his asbestos blankey*

no i mean groups that are acceptable within the mainstream. not groups that most everyone writes off as being wackjobs. when you step up and cite white supremecy groups as existing for the advancement of white people it is just silly. most white people would gladly take a 2x4 to those repulsive fools.
i am asking you for organizations that have a measure of public acceptance that exist for the advancement of white people.

afterthought: are you saying that you think the real organizations my list was based on are as ridiculously fringe-oriented as the white supremecy groups you countered with?

Advancement of white people to where?

just pulled the word advancement from the NAACP.

The point of black groups is to provide resources for a group that they consider to be underserved by the rest of society. What would be the point of a white advancement assocation?

I think that the crux of the issue is the difference between entitlement vs. opportunity.

*ding ding ding* TS has nailed it!

again, we are not guaranteed "life, liberty, and happiness"
only "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"

Well, the organization's mission statement is on their home page, if you'd care to visit.

And blacks are the largest group that was systematically denied those three.

talk to me about TODAY. no one denies that bad evil shit happened. the point is every day is a new day. how is anyone (other than anecdotal cases) in america denied "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" on 7/26/2004?

I'm rather certain that they were being lumped in with the wackos to be dismissed.

having just perused their site - i am sure as hell dismissing them.

here is the thing - if you only look at the mission statement, you're like "damn straight!" you wonder to yourself who in their right mind would disagree with the premise of the organization. but then you get into the their articles, and it is a supremecy group.

And some are more than willing to join up. Especially now that racism has a place online, it's just too easy now.

Like I said, they don't have names. ;) And what does this mean for me if I can't name any orgs that have a measure of public acceptance that exist for the advancement of white people?

Oh those were real??? I thought only the NAAWP was. Interesting. No, I just think that they are "typical". *shrugs*