Can you back that up, Jag?:confused:

The Arab league has compiled a very nice listing ot the West's betrayals of the Arab world. An interesting page to look at is this one which is a listing of Arab martyrs:

http://www.arableagueonline.org/arab...=225&page_no=8

Cruise around on that site for a while and then tell me just how co-operative you think ANY Arab nation is going to be.

All I could find was the Pals and Jews debacle which makes your statement I quoted, highly inflated.:p

OK, try this:

http://blog.newstandardnews.net/iraq...es/000423.html

And what we in the West need to understand is how deeply the Arabs continue to feel about the whole Palestinian issue. In their minds it is a constant reminder of Western betrayal, whether we think of it that way or not. And I guess I should have stated that when I said "very nice list of betrayal" that I meant from the Arab's standpoint, which is not necessarily my own.

So Jamails whining about traffic jams and humvees parked next to cemetaries, portrays "the West's betrayals of the Arab world"?:rolleyes:

Oh, I don't know Bruce. I'm just trying to get people to step out of their Western mindset and look at the whole thing as an Arab might. I'm not saying that I think they are right - they seem pretty fanatic to me - but I guess I can sort of understand why they might feel as they do. I mean when you look at those sites and follow some of the links, do you get the impression that we are making any progress towards winning them over? I don't, but maybe I'm missing something.

I have no doubt the Arabs think differently, have different customs, and don't understand or like us very much. My point was that "the West's betrayals of the Arab world" is a pretty broad brushed and grandiose statement to apply to the incidents you've cited. Bush Sr's inciting Iraquis to revolt , after the first Gulf War, then leaving them to swing in the breeze, would be one action that would come under your description, In my opinion.:)