Are you referring to the prejudices of those who say a fatherless family is damaging, Toad? Just want to clarify.

Yes.

I've listened to hours of talk radio against gay marriage, and read extensive anti-gay diatribes on the web, and read political grandstanding on the issue. At no time has any legal argument even been made, let alone substantiated, against gay marriage.

Here is a list of the arguments I've seen:

1) It will lead to polygamy, bestiality, and marriage to 'poltergeists' (O'Reilly today).

2) It is a case of judicial activism, against the wishes of 62% of the population.

3) Marriage is defined in the dictionary as being between a man and a woman.

4) It would be a "special privilege" only for gays. Currently, gays have equal rights as heterosexuals to enter heterosexual marriage.

5) It's against the Bible.

6) It's unnatural.

7) I don't want to tell my children about it.

8) It's yucky.


Are there any arguments against gay marriage that weren't also used and discredited against interracial marriage, or any number of other civil rights?

First of all, not attacking you just listing counter argumnets...

Gay marriage -- no prob, I'll come to the wedding and sniff into my hankie. Throw rice.

A child being raised by the State -- uh oh.

A child being raised by a caring, decent parent -- wonderful!

A child being raised by *two* caring, decent parents -- wow, we just hit the motherlode!

2 parents + grandparents, uncles, aunts, siblings, friends, community -- As Good As It Gets.


I don't see where gender comes into it.

- Pie

FileNotFound - Indeed. Counterarguments are so obvious to me that I wish they weren't even necessary. But all of these arguments were being advanced with all seriousness. As for the source of the statistic, it was from O'Reilly, who has been known to make up statistics on the spot.

Well, it COULD explain your pussy music tendencies...

Of course gay marriage should be legal.

Of course gay partners should be allowed to birth or adopt children and raise them in loving homes. Of course all children deserve loving homes.

And of course gay people should be teachers, writers, insurance claims adjusters, cashiers, artists, doctors, business people,...wait they are.

It is a question of basic human rights.

What pisses me off about the whole issue is that we have given the White House a new issue to use to sidestep the economy and the war in Iraq.

Bush gets to oppose gay marriage, alienating a special interest group who he never expected to support him. It will cost him nothing and further ingratiate him with evangelicals, who are willing to ignore his worldly foibles in favor of social conservatism.

:angry:

Sorry I'm late on this. No Juju, just gut feeling. I am not for making it illegal because I don't have a rational case for that. I'm just uncomfortable with it.:confused:
I can believe O'Reilly's 63%. I think there is probably 63% that would make the Bible law, if they could.:eek:

Jesus! Where do I start?

Maybe with some research and reading on my new online library.

I'll be back. I wont forget this but there are lotsa things to be done before this.

Nope
 

Legal rights, yes. Marriage...sorry but marriage is between a man and woman, get your own word.

Reminds me of a Chris Rock routine about single mothers, sure, you can do it...but that doesn't make it a fucking good idea!

Is being raised by the state better? There are plenty of kids in need of addoption.


Also marriage 'was' a union between man and woman. Now it's a union between two conscenting adults. Welcome to the new world. (If you don't like it, I can suggest a way to leave)

Oh, opinions not allowed here? Am I too un-PC?

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.