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I know this might be drifting off topic a bit, but I thought I'd take this chance to put forth one of my rants that no one ever agrees with.
It's important to remember that, when attempting to relate to someone, emphasizing your differences is not the way to go about it. You can only really relate to and identify with someone when you realize your similarities. This has obviously been done between blacks and whites in America, and it must also be done with men and women. Despite our differences, men and women (and people in general) are mostly the same. We go through many of the same circumstances and experience many of the same emotions and thought processes. We have many of the same feelings. This is hugely more significant than social strategies. Maybe my wife doesn't know what it's like to have to deal with male pride, but that is <i>not</i> the world. I don't know why many so people act as if it were. There are millions of other social intricacies and experiences in which men and women react exactly the same way. It has reached the point that our focus on the differences gets more in the way of relationships than the differences themselves! With all this said, I should reiterate that I do indeed recognize that men and women have their behavioral differences. However, if you keep repeating that mantra, then you'll never be able to relate to the opposite sex. |
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This whole thread just reinforces my original theory of cross-gender relations: Men are stupid, women are insane. Interestingly the men are virtually always willing to cop to being stupid when it comes to women and the women almost always deny the insanity even when they admit all of their own actions were nutty. I don't get it, save to accept it as proof of insanity. |
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Pete does better with guy friends. For her its more about guys doing the fun stuff cycling, ballgames, what not vs baby showers and various emote-a-fests. She likes that I can call one of my friends after several months and there is no explanation needed, we just pick up where we left off. Its over generalizing to say women can be more petty but cliques seem more likely to develop. Its about being herself and that is easier among guys. |
This whole sex thing. You can see my frustration!;)
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From Beestie:
Women impute a motive to men's actions then hold them responsible for it without first verifying the validity of the assumption thereby placing the responsibility for their interpretation squarely on the man's shoulders. My personal observation has been, women remember every slight, real and imagined. Men usually have to really impressed (good or bad) with something to remember it. Whit, exactly where was I flirting in this thread??? |
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The main reason why I have a bunch of guy friends? Because a lot of women in my area are down right annoying. They want to be these fragile things that want to have jobs that are easy and want to stay home and literally not know what goes on in the world around them. I know males that are like this as well - I don't hang around them either. I find that it is easier to be around a bunch of guys that I know are not wondering "mmm bitch - where do you think you can get off wearing that color" or "I bet she's with him cause of his money" or "I bet I can steal him from her". That kinda crap is not my style and I don't have the time or the energy to deal with it. |
Damn all you folks over think every thing !!!!!!!!!
I was raised by my mother , big sis , my moms best friend and her three daughters . My mom was the queen of batting her eye lashes and getting what she wanted from ANYBODY !!! I relate equaly well with men and ladys because i have figured out a simple fact . Men are like dogs , you feed us , give us some place warm to sleep , ocationaly rub our bellys , and let us run around with our friends , and we are happy puppys . Ladys are like cats , they will sweet talk you , then claw you , an NO BODY can figuer them out !!!!!!! Just my humble opinion :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
To me, it seems like the very worst offense would be that this specific quality is referred to as "feminine" behavior. Because yes it's the difference that's defining. And usually "viva la difference" but when the difference is tactically using WEAKNESS...
zip-man, I have never heard it put that way, but as usual you cut through all the BS. I could have said that with like five paragraphs... Having gone over the tactical use of weakness, we need a whole nother thread to talk about the tactical use of sexuality... |
We bombin Bagdad with hookers now?
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Ok - this is my point. Its not that I hate the female gender - far from it. I am very proud to be the woman that I am. I don't have to use stupid little airhead responses to shit. I am intelligent. If I don't know about something or how to do something, I have the balls to say I don't and I ask to learn. SNIP Balls? Interesting choice of terms considering balls is universally considered male. Anyone with the nerve, guts, steel, bravery or whatever is attributed with a male trait. Latent sexism? :) |
You could argue that the best pro-democratic offensive on the middle east would be a massive invasion of educated women demanding equal power. (The hookers...they can create a tactical diversion.)
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UT, you've never heard men are dogs? I've heard it a lot.:D
Pigs too. |
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On the subject of flirting, a friend of mine once said it's the perfect form of communication. It's easy, there's no commitment, makes people feel good and nobody gets hurt. Another imperfect, yet interesting thought. It is pretty true if things never get past flirting. Now to catch up on the rest of this thread... |
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