You're using the wrong definition of wretch. The primary definition according to Webster is "1 : a miserable person : one who is profoundly unhappy or in great misfortune"

See John Newton's story here

Also while I like "Amazing Grace", my favorite hymn is of a different sort. See "It is Well with my Soul"

That <i>is</i> the definition I'm using. Interesting link, anyway. I never knew the song's origins!

This quote from the link describes the problem I have with the song:<i><blockquote>For the rest of his life he observed the anniversary of May 10, 1748 as the day of his conversion, a day of humiliation in which he subjected his will to a higher power.</blockquote></i>I just think that's terrible. And I think being humble is a pretty important quality in a person.

sigh.

bagpipes play the music, they don't recite the lyrics.

Still LMAO......

http://www.snopes.com/religion/amazing.htm for more info.

I know. I just figured my view was rare and crazy enough that it might be interesting on it's own. ;)

On a partially unrelated thought, I decided some years ago that when I died, I wanted to be posed rather than placed in a box, and would like "Prop me up beside the jukebox when I die" played, in lieu of any really meaningful stuff.

It's important to get last licks when you can.

My brother also suggested a push button that would activate a remote control system which would point my arm to a random person and in my voice, cry, "You Killed Me!"

Ah, but that little speaker is as big as the sound in a normal bugle at that point. The horn takes over after that. Mr Bose made a fortune with that concept.:)

From the link on Newton's story;
WTF!:rolleyes:

Mmmm. Could be. But my experience with Bose speakers is that they sound really weak without a subwoofer to back them up.

Bruce -

That is how Christians try to justify other Christians' behavior. "He raped and killed that little girl, but he used lube and the killing was as humane as possible." Ridiculous, isn't it?

beefcake
 

Nobody's stopping anybody... post some yourself! :cool:

I don't know what they're complaining about. They've got Nothing But Net.

I get this mental image of a Quake 3 game, suddenly amazing grace bounces off a few walls, and then a bagpipe appears, skittering over the ground like a tarantuala.

Blam! Blam! *Bloot!* *Bleep!*

Yeah, "Amazing Grace" on the bagpipes makes me misty. So does Louis Armstrong singing "What a Wonderful World."

Re: beefcake
 

If I had 'em to post, I wouldn't be looking for them here. I was just kidding, BTW. I have all that I can stand to look at right at home! ;)