Are you sure that wasn't the French Army?;)

If you dont carry one in the pipe, leave it home. Do you feel more comfortable with the notion that you might accidentally fire it (in the holster this is next to impossible) or that you are in a crisis where you dont have the *ability* or time to rack the slide ?

When drawing your Glock from the holster, keep your trigger finger *outside* of the trigger well. You'll be fine.

And if you're not playing "badass" by looking at it or showing off, it's perfecdtly safe in the holster.

Good call Dave. I'd only suggest the mini-model (G30) for everyday carry. It has a ten shot clip too and if you feel like the world may explode in chaos during you outting you can bring some extra clips, they're only 22 bucks and can fit 5 or 6 in a belly pack.

Yes that's true. It's also the point. Having those among other options lets you control the situation.
It's not unusual to have doubts about what's unfamiliar.
There will always be stupid people that will hurt themselves and others, but they will do that with or without a gun. It's the people who prey on others that have to worry, because they don't know who is capable of defending themselves and who is not. Just the possibility of concealed carry protects many people that would never own a gun.:cool:

I personaly have a Glock 23 , mid sized , .40cal 165gr Federal Hydro-shocks . I looked at lots of holsters and i like the fobus line , cheap in price , strong in construction, good value for the buck.
My advice is to go to a gun show , look at and feel EVERY mid to small hand gun . Autos are preferable but they can jam , revolvers come in MANY different flavors , and are simple to operate , now they only hold so much ammo (5-6-8 rounds) .
And unless you think you are going to get into a movie style fire fight 5-6 rounds should do .
Awhile back S+W came out with a knock off of my Glock , a local dealer was selling them for sub $300 after taxes I thought "hell Carol (my wife ) might like one of those" . We went down to look at them , she liked it but it was awkward in her hand , we looked at the Lady Smith ( designed for a ladys hand ) still funny in her hand , we went thru MANY different models and makes , untill one fit her hand , the salesman said "pull the slide back " she struggled and struggled , he said " lets go look at revolvers .
The first one she picked up was a S+W 649 , .357 no hammer . She said this is it !!! so we got it and went to an indoor range . The first 5 shots at 25yards were in a fist sized group on a man sized sillouette target . I thought begginers luck , but no she can put 5 rounds rapid fire in a fist sized group any where on that target she wants , and Carol doesn't shoot much at all . That goes to show you how important feel is . Yes the sigs and HKs will feel killer in your hand , but they will also kill your wallet . Torus makes some nice revolvers and autos that are lower dollar but still good fire arms . Good luck and good :rattat:

CCW in MO was supposed to go into effect yesterday, but was temporarily blocked by a St. Louis judge. An appeal is now before the MO Supreme Court.

Damnit, I knew some folks in St. Louis would try to fuck this up.

The latest update

The outcome of this is going to be interesting, to say the least. The judge's point for blocking CC in Missouri is that it is against the state constitution. However, the constitution of MO says pretty clearly that the Legislature gets to decide...and they did.

Sounds like a weak argument from anti-gunners in denial about the true nature of the CC issue. But then again, what the hell do I know.

I'm going to move this discussion over to the Politics thread, where I've included some more links...and I SO want to hear what Radar has to say about it.