Belloc's book, Europe and the Faith is a lot shorter and so far (just started it) his method and language are interesting but obviously aimed at a Catholic audience. I don't remember Hourani's book making any assumptions about the audience. I meant to re-read that after 9-11 but it keeps getting bumped to the back of the list.

I think you're right about Islam being the organizing principle of Arab culture but hadn't made the language link to the other muslim societies which helps explain how Arab radicalism is welcomed without a central authority giving it credibility.

Maybe because the first part didn't surprise anyone.

Hey UT, you never answered my question. Are you suggesting that the problem lies with Islam, or with Arabic culture?

Yes, he is.

I believe it's a problem of the culture of Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam, but the problem has spread to all men who wear bow ties.

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OK, it's hard to know. Because: while we in the US believe that our religion, our government, and our culture are entirely separate, radical Islamism merges them all.

And harder still, I think, because we generally figure we have free will, whereas a lot of those folks believe that Allah has already worked out what's going to happen and they're just living it all out.

Everything I needed to know about Farrakhan I learned from his back list at

http://www.fadetoblack.com/farrakhan/albums.html

Have a listen! (Real Audio)

http://www.fadetoblack.com/farrakhan/Isshe.ram

Thought I'd share this quote.


- H.L. Mencken

Would be kinda funny, i'll grab the digicam this sat if i remember.

It's stuff like this that makes me think the arab culture has some severe problems. The 'muttawa' are the Saudi religious police, aka "The Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and Prevention of Vice."
I can't even verbalize exactly why, I just know that this kind of shit is wrong.

THEY say, the people WANT it.:turd:

Don't do an enemy from the image of the enemy
 

I just finished some studies about Islam and my opinion is that, part of the Muslim societies behaviour regarding human rights department, is deeply embedded in the character of the religion and in the very alive Middle Ages Islamic practices and traditions.
We are facing a cultural conflict, where Islamic aggressive and unmodernized religion plays an fundamental role.

Welcome to the Cellar, Wind. I've got 2 questions.
First why did you sent me an email addressed to Juju?
Secondly, your profile says Romania but your email address says UK. Student?

Hello everybody
 

Hello to xoxoxoBruce and to all the others.
Uhh... I've done some silly things, Bruce and I'll repair the misunderstandings by anwering your questions.
First, I was reading some messages from this web page, when I decided to unswer to a question put by Juju( and this was: Is the Arabic culture the same with Islam?). So I intended to answer this question to Juju but it seems I did an unintentional mistake. Sorry (I have the excuse of the beginner I guess).
To the second question I can answer that I'm fro m Romania, but I chosed as the main language, the british english and that's way, the e-mail ends with co.uk. And I'm a student at the University now.
So, I think you know now what you wanted. I will try to take active part to the disscusion around here and that by communicating sincerely we all will have something to win.

No problem, Wind.
Don't worry about your English, if we can't understand what you are trying to say, we'll ask.
And if we sound like we misunderstood, tell us. It will work out OK.:thumb:

Yeah...even native English speakers have problems using the language.