Yes but I gave up when I realised you'll thwart me at every turn. If I get an idea and want to discuss it, you run off to bucket night, or the river. :mecry:

He's fickle that way.

so to get back on track.....

This

She's 91, you know

and this

they say it all

We've just had a vicious attack on some of the most vulnerable of our population too. Fortunately, no one was killed or injured.

fixing the problem
 

You live in a neighborhood where the feral dog population is growing...a number of folks have been injuried -- some killed -- by these dogs...after each attack, vocal folks in the neighborhood make a big show about how 'we can't let these dogs change the way we conduct our lives!' and how 'we must be united!', but not one person lifts a finger to ring the animal control folks, or to just pick up and carry a baseball bat when goin' out.

Animal control, of course, has a pretty good bead on the dogs but is largely hobbled in its efforts to exterminate them by animal rights bastids who make a big stink anytime anyone even thinks about killing the animals...'you're a speciesist!' they shriek.

So, the ferals keep eatin' babies and old folks, folks keep jibber-jabberin', nuthin' really gets done.

The Hebrews had/have a solution for this crap: 'If you know someone is coming to kill you, get up early and go kill them first'.

Seems to me: we're well past the crack of dawn on this, their intent is crystal, 'diplomacy' (bribery) has been tried (and has failed)...time to kill some people.

Did Fox News also say that!? Wow. They need Ailes back to restore 'fair and honest'.

Except that they did.

Several members of the community, including members of the bomber's own family reported him to the anti-radicalisation unit as a potential danger.

He was investigated and deemed to be only peripherally involved in radicalism and not an imminent danger.

Off you go, see how that works for you.

Or were you expecting the Government to do that for you.

What I expect is for our employees to put law-abiding citizens first, and to eliminate threats to those citizens (the folks who pay the bills).

What I get is a lotta noise from folks who, for some godamned reason, wanna hesitate and shuffle their feet and not do much else.

As for my neighborhood: I do what I can.

What about you?

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"He was investigated and deemed to be only peripherally involved in radicalism and not an imminent danger."

Yeah, that seems to be the story over and over. Seems like, at some point, folks would say 'okay, the last ten violent acts were done by persons only peripherally involved in radicalism and not an imminent danger, so mebbe we need to redefine our terms, lower the bar, tolerate less'.

i'm gonna regret this...
 

tw, what the holy fuck does fox news have to do with anything?

It explains your attitude. And contempt for honesty and facts.

Since you have none, it also explains your excessive use of irrelevant and profane adjectives. And your love of violence.

The Manchester bomber was a citizen and, as far as I know, a law abiding one until this incident.
The last ones that succeeded. Investigators have to do triage, and if the ones that they do consider to be a threat end up not making the news, that's probably in their favor.

Do you want to pay for an agency to put permanent surveillance on everyone who has ever shown up on their radar?

Would you want them to be able to do that, even if there were no monetary cost?

Or are you just advocating skipping the surveillance and imprisoning or killing people without evidence? Evidence against one [insert ethnicity/religion/etc] is evidence against all?

What facts have I ignored, tw?

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HM, I don't have all the solutions. Just seems to me what our employees are doin' now isn't succeeding well enough, often enough.

We don't know if they stopped any, stopped 99 or stopped 999.

exactly right, Bruce
 

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