Awww Merc, that's a sad ploy.

I'm confused. which post comes first, #16 or #18 ?
It might be helpful to re-read RL's post before answering.
I don't think his post contains the words "white racist extremist",
but unfortunately they are in #16

Sorry I didn't come up to your expectations... twice.
We should both try harder next time because the immigration policies could be a good discussion.

Sad ploy? That's reality, pregnant women crossing the border, having babies here.

Wasn't it white racists that enacted, and enforced with vigor every day, all those Jim Crow laws?

OK, so the pregnant woman is "reality".
The sad ploy is Merc's attempt to divert our discussion off to yet another, different, political issue.

RichLevy's first sentence (in what Merc quoted) did refer to Jim Crow times, and RL wrote it in a past tense.
But his second sentence spoke to current activities in the politics of US immigration policies.
Subsequently Merc has tried to impose his "white racist extremists" on these current immigration issues.

I believe we can have a much better discussion without the use of such epithets, and I hope we will.

But if it walks like a duck, call it a fucking duck, that's honest discussion.

No it's not honest discussion to have someone force you to say words you don't intend to use.

You have to decide if your discussing philosophies and concepts, or reality. If it's the latter, then it doesn't walk like a duck, it's a fucking duck.

This discussion is getting overly complex because xoB's issues
come from separate postings in this thread.

And as I posted earlier...
It's the reader's option to interpret when it is walking like a duck,
and thereby adopt Merc's epithet language

Now the reader has the option to decide if it's reality or not,
and thereby adopt xoB's new action-figure. :rolleyes:

I leave it to others to chase after Merc's "sad ploy"
that lead to this drift into the differences between
"philosophies, concepts, and reality"

Well duh, that's why it's called a thread, posts don't stand alone. Except for an occasional off topic, most posts should relate to the topic at hand. If the thread drifts, try to follow along, or at least point out what post you're responding to.

That's the problem, how the fuck can we discuss an issue if you don't make it perfectly clear what you saying?

No, not "Duh", xoB. There's your epiphany !

We now see that since it wasn't perfectly clear which posts
you were responding to with regards to your animated "duck",
and which post(s) you were responding to with regards to "reality",
you got sucked right into Merc's "Sad Ploy".

So while we've had a bit of fun, it has not been very illuminating,
and as you point out we've not been able to discuss any more issues.
Maybe things will go better next year.

Happy New Year to all, and to all a Good Night.

It's not been illuminating because you keep dancing around the issues.

Clearly you are posting about TheMercenary. Obvious because he is doing the dancing and evading. And because your post did not start with "Originally Posted by ..." with the relevant quoted sentences.

At any cost, defend the guy who walks like a duck. The enemy of our enemy is our friend.

Friends like that, who needs enemas?

Happy New Year, tw, long may you rave. :haha:

I'm too old for those kind of parties.