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Spexxvet 12-17-2010 08:49 AM

I am mediocre and proud. I am a face in the crowd and proud. I am middle class and proud. I am riff-raff, hoi polloi, and don't want to be anything else. Hear me roar!

Shawnee123 12-17-2010 08:53 AM

Rowr, you go spexx! :)

monster 12-17-2010 05:32 PM

If it weren't for all the overachievers, there wouldn't be any room for the slackers.

TheMercenary 12-17-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 700530)
Heh...yeah, there is room in this world for us less than superhuman beings. We aren't all like Francisco Franco (or whatever his name is) or merc. :lol:

:lol2: What a tool...

Lamplighter 01-01-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 698468)
I've been applying for any number of low-grade jobs since I got mine (Teaching Assistant).
I've had one interview. For those who don't know, I have a job,
but can't start until my enhanced Criminal Records Bureau check comes through;
I have a normal CRB, but this is not adequate for staff, only volunteers.

So every week I go to the Job Centre, sign on, and prove I am actively seeking work.
Some weeks I bother, and apply right left and centre. <snip>

The TV heads were just talking about US job prospects in 2011,
and how so many people (84%) who are currently employed
are planning to look for different job in 2011.
The heads also said that employers will be looking more favorably on (these) people who
will be seen as "trading jobs", as opposed to those who have been unemployed for a long time.

I know this does not apply to you, SG, but it did remind me of your postings last month
about still waiting for your "enhanced CRB".
I started wondering about the British political system, as compared to the US.

That is, if I were in your position (hired, but not yet working the job) and still drawing benefits,
I would seriously consider a letter and phone call to my own State
Senator and/or Representative.
Usually, this is just the sort of thing our politicians love to say about they how they helped
their constituents get through the red tape, blah, blah, blah.

A long preamble, but does the British political system allow for that sort of short cut
thru the bureaucracy to get you into the job you want and have been offered. ?

Sundae 01-01-2011 12:55 PM

We have a Conservative MP who I did not vote for and have very little respect for (as he has two homes because he works in London, yet constituents like my bro only have one and commute - proving it is easily possible grrrrrrr)

But maybe you're right. I'll find out when his next surgery is and try to get an appointment. It's another route I haven't considered.

ETA - just sent him an email. I doubt it will help, but it's certainly worth a try. Perhaps it might even lead to a question in Parliament. It certainly ties in well with cutting money paid to people on benefits - I DO NOT want to be on benefits, I want to WORK! Even if it doesn't help me at least it raises an issue many people mucst be facing; except of course that the majority of TAs are wives and mothers and aren't claiming benefits to start with ....

be-bop 01-01-2011 06:34 PM

SG do you want to know why your CBR check is taking so long?
Cuts.....
The last Govt and this present shower have decided that there's far too many Civil Servant's so the numbers that work in various departments are being slashed, leavers, retirees are not being replaced but the workload increases as more and more people require checks due to legislation changes.
So in the years to come when you want benefits, tax refunds,passports or any other Government services be prepared for a long wait because there won't be enough bums on seats to cope with the increased workload.
And it's not as the Daily Wail suggests Lazy, Feather Bedded, Gold Plated Pension, Receiving Civil Servants who cock up the system.

Sundae 01-02-2011 06:14 AM

Oh don't worry - all of my family have worked in the public sector at some point, and I am appalled at how the Hate Mail makes out you are living off the fat of the land because you happpen to work for a PCT or for the Ambulance Service. I bet journalists don't have to bring their own stationery or toilet paper into work...

The irony is, it's being held up at every stage, but longest with the Police. My Mum used to run CRB checks... She said "I could have done it for you in five seconds flat!" But the office she worked in when she retired is now disbanded and working all over the County - she really got out at the right time. As she says, "I wonder how I managed to keep my occupied all day now - obviously the six of us [two separate shifts] weren't doing anything if they can just scrap all those jobs!"

Lamplighter 12-17-2013 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 702787)
The TV heads were just talking about US job prospects in 2011,
and how so many people (84%) who are currently employed
are planning to look for different job in 2011.
The heads also said that employers will be looking more favorably on (these) people who
will be seen as "trading jobs", as opposed to those who have been unemployed for a long time.
<snip>

The posting above was on 1/1/11 ... and it has come true ... all too true.

The Plum Line
Ryan Cooper
December 17, 2013
Elizabeth Warren sheds light on Washington’s failure
Quote:

Today, Elizabeth Warren is introducing
a bill to ban the use of credit scores during the hiring process.
While this is a fairly small-bore reform, it is probably still worth doing.

Credit reports were developed to help lenders assess the risks associated with making a loan.
Over the last few years, they have been aggressively marketed to employers as a means
to gauge an applicant’s character or likelihood to commit theft or fraud.
Yet there is no proven link between personal credit reports and
criminal behavior or performance of a specific job.

A spokesperson for TransUnion, one of the major credit reporting companies, admitted in 2010:
“We don’t have any research to show any statistical correlation between
what’s in somebody’s credit report and their job performance or their likelihood to commit fraud.”

And this reform won’t even touch the problem of long-term unemployment,
against whom there is massive discrimination already.
As Matt Yglesias says, those people are doomed:

We could keep paying UI checks. But we’re not going to do that.
And we’re not going to do relocation assistance.
And we’re not going to do direct hiring and public works.
We’re going to do nothing.

We’re going to tell people to go out and look for work,
even though employers looking to hire can still afford to be very choosy
and generally refuse to even consider the long-term unemployed as job applicants.

The country failed these people first by letting the labor market stay
so slack for so long that they became unhirable, and now we’re going to fail them again.
<snip>
...your employer goes out of business
...your unemployment insurance kicks in for a while
...your "extended" unemployment benefits come to an end
...your house payments end and the bank forecloses
...your credit rating goes into the toilet
...your prospective employer asks for a credit score.

Lot's of luck

xoxoxoBruce 12-17-2013 11:19 PM

Quote:

The country failed these people first by letting the labor market stay
so slack for so long that they became unhirable, and now we’re going to fail them again.
The people failed themselves by shopping at walmart.

tw 12-17-2013 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 886445)
The people failed themselves by shopping at walmart.

Well that was really enlightening. Did you come up with that on your own or consult a genius?

xoxoxoBruce 12-18-2013 12:16 AM

Fuck you, tw.

Lamplighter 12-18-2013 07:39 AM

Quote:

The people failed themselves by shopping at walmart.
:D Now that's funny !

Right up there with buying rape insurance
... like a man or woman paying $ to insure that they were going to get raped.

.

tw 12-18-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 886447)
Fuck you, tw.

You get angry when someone mocks statements unsupported by facts. Surprise us. Fill us with knowledge that justified that accusation ... if you can. Good luck.

xoxoxoBruce 12-18-2013 11:14 AM

Look, I know daddy was a professional liar who thought he was smarter than everyone else, and you're doing the best you can to live up his example, but the truth is he was scum and so are you.

You want me to justify my claims? Why, you don't. You rattle off unsupported bullshit non-stop, so why should I acquiesce to your demands? No, fuck you.


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