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smoothmoniker 11-26-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 696372)
Please forgive me for maligning tranquil LA where women walk alone at night with no fear, people love their neighbor whether black, white or brown, and the police occupy themselves with doing crosswords and eating donuts all day because their job is so boring.


Your worldview is positively dripping with ignorance.

I've lived here my whole life, my wife and sister ride the metro alone, walk the streets of our neighborhood all the time, yes at night, yes alone. We've never even witnessed a violent crime.

There are 6 languages spoken within a 3 block radius of our house, and they all show up to hang out together for the Friday night street fair down on main street. There are no fist-fights, no race riots, and no police barricades.

And guess what - we love our kids just as damn much as you corn-fed white-bread bigots from the sticks.

plthijinx 11-26-2010 09:49 PM

while i was incarcerated in the td of cj i came across a guy that was dating a 16 year old girl. he was 18 at the time. mom didn't like him so she called the cops on him. yep. he now has to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life. something like that in the prison system here is ok, errrr, accepted for obvious reasons. however though, if you take the certain prisoner that comes to mind, well scumbag deserved the beating he got. and more than once i might add.

SamIam 11-26-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker (Post 696426)
Your worldview is positively dripping with ignorance.

I've lived here my whole life, my wife and sister ride the metro alone, walk the streets of our neighborhood all the time, yes at night, yes alone. We've never even witnessed a violent crime.

There are 6 languages spoken within a 3 block radius of our house, and they all show up to hang out together for the Friday night street fair down on main street. There are no fist-fights, no race riots, and no police barricades.

And guess what - we love our kids just as damn much as you corn-fed white-bread bigots from the sticks.

I admire your loyalty to your home town and I'm sure LA has some wonderful areas to live, etc., etc. Its just so easy to get a rise out of you, that I figured I'd pull your tail a little.

I am quite aware that people from everywhere value both their own and their children's safety - even in LA and even in the sticks.

Sociopaths, including violent sex offenders, present a major problem to modern society. In the bad old days members of a predator's town or tribe would simply have killed him or driven him out of the fold. These days we just put them in jail and eventually they go back to a community that wants no part of them - big surprise.

I am amused to be labeled a "corn fed white bread bigot from the sticks." Shucks darn. I'll concede that the last thing LA - or anywhere else for that matter - needs is more criminals. But if stating that LA and other major cities have some bad neighborhoods and a higher crime rate than sleepy little Cortez makes me a bigot, so be it. And I'll save you a slice of Wonder Bread if you ever come to visit. ;)

plthijinx 11-26-2010 10:20 PM

SamIam brings up a good point in saying "These days we just put them in jail and eventually they go back to a community that wants no part of them - big surprise." In my case I did not commit the crimes I went to prison for but because I went to prison and have these convictions on my record no one will hire me in my old field. industrial engineering. i've been a cellarite for a minute and there are those here that can vouch for me. it's been more than a year since i "walked out the walls" and it's frustrating. i'm used to leading a comfortable lifestyle and i tell ya, this last year has been rough. i am thankful though that i do have a job even if it's not in either of my fields (engineering and/or aviation). my point is this... i didn't do my crimes yet because the record says i did people believe the record (and why wouldn't they i understand) but people want ex-felons to improve their life/lifestyle, be productive in society, yadayadayada.... yet we don't get the chance. put us in someone else's back yard. fmr.

xoxoxoBruce 11-26-2010 11:07 PM

That's why that high school football player we talked about awhile back, refused to take the DA's plea bargain, he knew it would fuck up his life. Then they changed the law because of the public outrage over his case, but he couldn't get out because the lawmakers forgot to apply it retroactively.
Then he had to stay in jail for almost another year until the legislature got around to amending the law.

plthijinx 11-26-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 696441)
That's why that high school football player we talked about awhile back, refused to take the DA's plea bargain, he knew it would fuck up his life. Then they changed the law because of the public outrage over his case, but he couldn't get out because the lawmakers forgot to apply it retroactively.
Then he had to stay in jail for almost another year until the legislature got around to amending the law.

:headshake: :headshake: if you guys only knew what i just went though. i saw similar cases over the last 2 months. the law is messed up now. really messed up. society now today is just overwhelming. DA's only care about one thing and one thing only. convictions. "who's right? who's wrong? i don't care! convict them! make my resume look better!" fucking joke. thought and was brought up on the principals of justice and right up bringing. only to be fucked. apologize but damn need to vent.

xoxoxoBruce 11-26-2010 11:40 PM

No need to apologize, you've been around here to know we love venting, we encourage it, nurture it. :lol:

plthijinx 11-27-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 696448)
No need to apologize, you've been around here to know we love venting, we encourage it, nurture it. :lol:

right on!:cool:

SamIam 11-27-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by plthijinx (Post 696434)
SamIam brings up a good point in saying "These days we just put them in jail and eventually they go back to a community that wants no part of them - big surprise." In my case I did not commit the crimes I went to prison for but because I went to prison and have these convictions on my record no one will hire me in my old field. industrial engineering. i've been a cellarite for a minute and there are those here that can vouch for me. it's been more than a year since i "walked out the walls" and it's frustrating. i'm used to leading a comfortable lifestyle and i tell ya, this last year has been rough. i am thankful though that i do have a job even if it's not in either of my fields (engineering and/or aviation). my point is this... i didn't do my crimes yet because the record says i did people believe the record (and why wouldn't they i understand) but people want ex-felons to improve their life/lifestyle, be productive in society, yadayadayada.... yet we don't get the chance. put us in someone else's back yard. fmr.

I am sorry you had to go through that and are still going through it. I had a minor brush with the legal system myself a few years back and your comments are dead on. As far as I could see, the DA, judge and public defender followed the same formula for everyone accused with little regard for any individual's actual guilt or innocence. Once you've attracted the attention of the system, it mechanically chews you up until it finally spits you out.

For all that, I am still very concerned that a person convicted of such a severe crime will be living so close to me. I suppose the people of my neighborhood will be given more details at the town hall meeting about this on December 6th.

wolf 11-27-2010 11:43 AM

Information about his offense should be available on your state's megan's law database, along with a recent mug shot (updated yearly). Violent sexual offender actually covers a lot of territory in terms of a definition. He might not be high risk with respect to little old ladies, for example. There may also be a publicly accessible database for criminal convictions.

I deal with a number of sexual offenders on a regular basis. Some of them just had really bad lawyers.

plthijinx 11-28-2010 02:56 AM

wolf your dead on there. even some of the defense lawyers don't give a rats ass about nothing but their bank account. sam i don't blame you. hell i'd be concerned. but definitely look into the nature of his crime and find out exactly what got put on paper and if he really did the crime. what i mean by this is i signed for my agg assault charges for four years. the DA came at me with 20 years to start with. i freaked the hell out. so when my lawyer and i talked them down over the following weeks we agreed on a 4 year sentence. no, i didn't do the crime however at the time it seemed like the best alternative to go ahead and sign on 4 years. didn't want to gamble and loose and get more time sorta thing.


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