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Spexxvet 09-29-2010 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 685512)
What is the speed of dark?

Q.orange

Shawnee123 09-29-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 685512)
What is the speed of dark?

I don't know. How fast do Mexicans and Muslims run when the xenophobic ultra-patriots try to run them out of their beloved country?

HungLikeJesus 09-29-2010 01:45 PM

I don't think we'd be welcome in other populated parts of the universe.
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Human thought is so primitive it's looked upon as an infectious disease in some of the better galaxies.

mansouryar 09-29-2010 02:17 PM

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I know damn well if this technology were to become a reality, nation states would closely control it's use for their own benefit. Running down to Home Depot for a wormhole is not in the cards.
I had hoped someone in here would tell me how to prevent that scenario? I believe we need this technology mostly for the environmental reasons and there is no guarantee that the nation states would allow applying it at any time ever.
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How do we know what the consequences of moving the heat from the earth's core to the atmosphere are going to be? Will it cause excess cooling of the core, and shrinkage causing massive earthquakes, tsunamis, super volcanoes and prairie dog suicides?
It is only a possibility and needs separate studies. I mean there would be an extreme access to sun rays at the earth or other planets of the solar system, windy regions at various heights, and also geothermal points by means of this technology. The right choice is up to other aspects of the story.
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Mass access to teleportation would be cool, but at the same time it would suck. Those remote exotic locations would lose their charm if they were easy to get to and millions of people around the world decided they wanted to go there. … Put another way, there would no longer be rural areas, it would all be one big suburb.
Thus, we need to think about the ways of keeping the privacy in such a world. There are millions of cell phones, air planes, telescopes, … but people can still have a privacy. There must be a solution …
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I don't think we'd be welcome in other populated parts of the universe.
What happened to Indians when the white people discovered the America? It would depend on which side is stronger and more violent … ! :o

Griff 09-29-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mansouryar (Post 685608)
I had hoped someone in here would tell me how to prevent that scenario? I believe we need this technology mostly for the environmental reasons and there is no guarantee that the nation states would allow applying it at any time ever.

It has to get into as many hands as possible in the shortest possible time-frame, so it is assumed to be humanities' birthright. If we can manipulate time and space, that shouldn't be a problem.

Happy Monkey 09-29-2010 07:00 PM

In Larry Niven's Known Space setting, Earth has teleportation pods all over. In the beginning of Ringworld, the main character celebrates his birthday by having a party in every time zone, extending the day as long as he can.

footfootfoot 09-29-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 685664)
It has to get into as many hands as possible in the shortest possible time-frame, so it is assumed to be humanities' birthright. If we can manipulate time and space, that shouldn't be a problem.

Which is why you need the guys from Google and Wikipedia on board.

xoxoxoBruce 09-30-2010 03:00 AM

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It has to get into as many hands as possible in the shortest possible time-frame, so it is assumed to be humanities' birthright.
Doesn't help the moonshiners.

mansouryar 09-30-2010 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 685664)
It has to get into as many hands as possible in the shortest possible time-frame, so it is assumed to be humanities' birthright. If we can manipulate time and space, that shouldn't be a problem.

That's correct, but when this idea comes to practical details, the situation gets disappointing … BTW, we'd be able to manipulate only space, NOT time.

mansouryar 09-30-2010 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 685675)
Which is why you need the guys from Google and Wikipedia on board.

Wikipedia is far from such affairs, but I've contacted Google already, not any reply yet. They don't pay attention if there wouldn't be any news wave of the mainstream media, a Nobel prize or something like these … about this subject.

xoxoxoBruce 09-30-2010 03:13 AM

They're not interested in what you dream of doing, they are interested in what you've done, they can make a buck on.

mansouryar 09-30-2010 07:45 AM

I might need them to do something, if I can do it by myself, I wouldn't need them anymore. Thanks for the tips anyway.

HungLikeJesus 09-30-2010 02:05 PM

Mansouryar, I hope you'll post in other Cellar forums. I think a lot of us would be interested in learning more about you.

mansouryar 10-14-2010 03:54 AM

I will post if I have time and something to say, but I think devoting time to this wormhole stuff would be more useful for me & others, than commenting on the matters that I don't know about them, as good as this one.
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This page contains some links to interesting articles. I suggest reading them; however those are rather old, but consider the progress in this field is unfortunately slow:
http://www.earthtech.org/press/index.html
For example, this article is informative IMO:
http://www.earthtech.org/press/2004....ation_week.pdf

mansouryar 10-29-2010 06:54 AM

Reading this story made my day:
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Breaking the Law of Gravity
By Charles Platt
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6...ravity_pr.html
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Don't care to its publishing date, it's really well-written & straightforward. I wish all the science journalists would have written this style.


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