I don't think I could ever bring myself to pay more than $8000 for a car. Can get a nice '98 Volvo V70 for $8000.

yeah...you're going to be driving that for a while yet. so you'd.. better get used to the idea.

might as well get xm radio back

People *buy* on emotion, and justify on facts. Here are some facts:

• Getting around costs money
• Value is a relative term

There's an abundance of values associated with cars, new and used.

• new and shiny
• reliability
• operating cost
• new car smell
• depreciation
• appearance
• comfort
• performance
• availability
• practicality
• image
• etc etc etc

Someone faced with a car buying decision might consider and rank any or all of these factors or many others. What *value* each of these factors has varies from person to person. And then there's the cost/benefit consideration that is inevitably included. I might *want* champagne, but the budget says beer. NOT WHILE DRIVING OFFICER!

And of course, we all rank these values differently and then go on to present them as facts to support our position. Thankfully, I can cross off my bucket list "buy a new car". I see no need whatsoever to repeat that experience.

Real patriots will ask tw for instructions.

Bwahahahaha

If I was going to buy a used car it would probably be an old Volvo. Hondas last forever because of design finesse; Volvos last forever because they are an indestructible tank.

I traded a puppy for a car and they gave me $1500 and they spent $1200 to fix the shocks, brakes, tranny, fluids etc. I thought it was great deal. I figure I have no payments so if I have to spend any money on this car it will be less than car payments. I think I am becoming a chrome-aholic though I did put a new grille on the front cheaply but I look at it like its an old car it needed a new set of choppers. ;)

I think I'd go Jeep Wrangler

I think I will take one of these as my next demo:

http://www.lewisautoworld.com/html/i...san%20cube.jpg

That thing is just begging to be converted to one giant subwoofer enclosure. You could literally bounce down the road.

Looks like it is made by fisher price.

:lol:

Poor LJ will never be the same Case and CF since you "dissed" his dream car! ;)

Jim, I saw heaps of those in Japan ... I fear you may face some, ah, "size issues".

Maybe you could rip out the driver's seat and drive from the back seat. Have to shift the speakers, though...