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Aliantha 04-22-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 559111)
So why are people required to wear clothes? What is this nothing you have to hide?

People wear clothes to keep the weather out tw. Modesty was just a side effect of that need.

classicman 04-22-2009 09:14 PM

Some people really need to wear MORE clothes

tw 04-22-2009 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 559262)
People wear clothes to keep the weather out tw. Modesty was just a side effect of that need.

I'm thinking I need some ibuprofen. Another fantasy achieved - strip search. Does modesty increase the thrill? Oh to be a student again.

But wait - I do have something to hide. And since inspired by your post, alot. Never mind.

xoxoxoBruce 04-23-2009 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 558984)
If he saw the pill he should know what it was, but from what I've read he saw nothing and was working on hearsay.

I was wrong according to the article I read today. The principal actually did see the pills and knew the were ibuprofen before the hearsay that they belonged to this girl.
So he ordered the strip search actually knowing it was ibuprofen, not an illegal substance. Stone the fucker. :mad:

Trilby 04-23-2009 06:24 AM

let's sum up: some people are fascists and some people like to strip search OTHER people.

I belong to the latter. HOWEVER (and this is HUGE) I do NOT wish to search anyone,anytime, ever, who is not at least 35 years old. AT LEAST.

some people are crazy fuckheads. some people think the word of a co-worker or student is more believeable than the word of their OWN child. I pity, pity, pity those parents.

I know my own children. I would trust them, not the word of some whoever.

classicman 04-23-2009 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 559324)
Stone the fucker.

Yup. Right. Forking. Now.

Just thought of something - Is he still working? working there?
Damn, just damn.

Razzmatazz13 04-23-2009 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 559324)
I was wrong according to the article I read today. The principal actually did see the pills and knew the were ibuprofen before the hearsay that they belonged to this girl.
So he ordered the strip search actually knowing it was ibuprofen, not an illegal substance. Stone the fucker. :mad:

In school, drugs are drugs. You can't have legal or illegal drugs on your person. You get the same punishment for either. I got in trouble in elementary school once because my mom gave me one of those lollipops that help sore throats before I left. I always got to school long before class started, so I was finishing it in the hallway and a teacher told me to get rid of the candy. I told her what it was and she informed me that I needed to throw it away immediately and not bring any in ever again. Luckily for me, that teacher knew me very well...otherwise I'm sure I'd have a record for substance abuse or something at this point.

It was a common joke among us friends in the marching band that we had to hide our band bag (the backpack which holds anything and everything) because it had ibuprofen, midol, and excedrine for when we needed them.


Actually, in our school you're not allowed to carry water bottles either. It's worth detention I think? We all used to do it anyway. Supposedly kids used to put vodka in the bottles or other clear alcohols...and "teachers can't tell the difference". We decided it was worth the risk. Anyone wanted to tell me I was breaking a law, and they could test any part of me or the water bottle that they would like...they weren't going to find anything, and I was tired of passing out from heat exhaustion in class because some stupid teacher got her jollies off by refusing me a bathroom/water fountain break.

Similarly sick of going to the nurse and being told she only had baby tylenol to give me for a migrane...no thanks I'll hide some excedrine in my purse.

footfootfoot 04-23-2009 05:40 PM

Ahh you are all a bunch of sissies. What are you gonna say when they approve of extraordinary rendition and the five techniques? I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

Just a matter of time...

Aliantha 04-23-2009 07:45 PM

That's weird about the water bottles Razz although I guess they had cause. Over here all the kids are required to take water bottles to school. Mainly because of the climate and the fact that it's usually pretty warm.

Anyway, I can't imagine they'd ever ban water bottles here in schools.

xoxoxoBruce 04-24-2009 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Razzmatazz13 (Post 559392)
In school, drugs are drugs. You can't have legal or illegal drugs on your person. You get the same punishment for either.

I realize that, but once he was sure it was ibuprofen and not acid or smack, it hardly calls for a strip search based on hearsay. There was no impetus not to wait for the police or parents to be involved. Flail 'em.

Razzmatazz13 04-24-2009 10:45 AM

Oh, I entirely agree. This thread just touched a nerve, since I've not been out of high school long enough yet. I'm still bitter about having to worry whether or not I remembered to take the headache pills out of my purse from over the weekend. And don't even get me started on "weapons"...grr

Happy Monkey 06-25-2009 12:30 PM

Only Clarence Thomas thought strip searching a girl for ibuprofen was OK.

Unfortunately, seven justices thought this wasn't obvious, and ruled that the school administrators couldn't be sued.

tw 06-25-2009 06:40 PM

Amazing. Clarence Thomas did not follow Scalia's lead. He finds nothing wrong with student strip searches without due cause? Even Scalia found that unacceptable.

Happy Monkey 06-25-2009 06:58 PM

I don't think school administrators should be strip searching kids even with due cause. If anyone is strip searching children, it should be cops with due cause and warrants.

tw 06-25-2009 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 577624)
If anyone is strip searching children, it should be cops with due cause and warrants.

Remember the attitude of that time. Torture, international kidnapping, and imprisonment without judicial review were what any good patriot advocated. What's a little strip search and cavity investigation? Acceptable back then.


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