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Redux 02-22-2009 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 537581)
As I stated earlier, it appears from the reports that this is a minor part of the trip. And she does not set national policy on issues with Italy. So why would she need to meet with anyone?

Perhaps to meet with US commanders and forces stationed in Italy?
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Congressional delegation today were briefed by U.S. Admiral Mark Fitzgerald, Commander of U.S. Naval Forces Europe and Africa, and Commander of Allied Joint Force Command Naples. Admiral Fitzgerald and his NATO staff provided information on NATO activities in the Balkans, the ongoing training of Iraqi Security Forces, and operations against pirates off the coast of Somalia....

http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewConte...4975420&EDATE=
Then a speech to the Italian Chamber of Deputies, focusing on shared security and economic interests with a G-7 partner:
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi today addressed the Italian Chamber of Deputies as part of an official delegation visit. Pelosi was invited to speak before the Chamber by President Gianfranco Fini. Below are the Speaker’s remarks entitled, “Strong Allies for a Secure Future – U.S. / Italian Relations and Future Challenges,” as prepared:....

http://www.isria.info/en/18_February_2009_40.htm
And finally, on to Afghanistan:
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told Afghan President Hamid Karzai America's "new strategy" in Afghanistan will focus on reconstructing the war-battered country and maintaining strong counter-terrorism measures, his office said....

...The congressional delegation to Afghanistan met Friday with U.S. Forces at Camp Eggers in Kabul and were briefed by U.S. Ambassador William Wood, and U.S. and allied military commanders.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS...osi/index.html
I wonder how many wild and frivolous parties she attended in Afghanistan. We all know that Kabul is a vacation destination for the rich and famous these days.

In fact, the minor part of the trip were the social events (part of every diplomatic trip) that have your panties in a knot.

TheMercenary 02-22-2009 10:10 PM

Pelosi does not make policy for international relations with any country. So tell me again why she went?

Redux 02-22-2009 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 537743)
Pelosi does not make policy for international relations with any country. So tell me again why she went?

The US State Department has a report on its website to explain the role of Congressional oversight to foreign officials who might understand the US system of government.

But clearly, Merc, you need a lesson on the US system of government and the role of Congressional oversight as well.

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Congressional oversight of policy implementation and administration has occurred throughout the history of the United States government under the Constitution. Oversight — the review, monitoring, and supervision of operations and activities —takes a variety of forms and utilizes various techniques...

Congressional oversight refers to the review, monitoring, and supervision of federal agencies, programs, activities, and policy implementation. Congress exercises this power largely through its standing committee system. However, oversight, which dates to the earliest days of the Republic, also occurs in a wide variety of congressional activities and contexts. These include authorization, appropriations, investigative, and legislative hearings by standing committees; specialized investigations by select committees; and reviews and studies by congressional support agencies and staff.

Congress’s oversight authority derives from its “implied” powers in the Constitution, public laws, and House and Senate rules. It is an integral part of the American system of checks and balances....

The philosophical underpinning for oversight is the Constitution’s system of checks and balances among the legislature, executive, and judiciary. James Madison, known as the “Father of the Constitution,” described the system in Federalist No. 51 as establishing “subordinate distributions of power, where the constant aim is to divide and arrange the several offices in such a manner that each may be a check on the other.”

Oversight, as an outgrowth of this principle, ideally serves a number of overlapping objectives and purposes:
* improve the efficiency, economy, and effectiveness of governmental operations;
* evaluate programs and performance;
* detect and prevent poor administration, waste, abuse, arbitrary and capricious behavior, or illegal and unconstitutional conduct;
* protect civil liberties and constitutional rights;
* inform the general public and ensure that executive policies reflect the public interest;
* gather information to develop new legislative proposals or to amend existing statutes;
* ensure administrative compliance with legislative intent; and
* prevent executive encroachment on legislative authority and prerogatives.

In sum, oversight is a way for Congress to check on, and check, the executive.

http://fpc.state.gov/59730.htm
Don't worry...there wont be test. ;)

TheMercenary 02-22-2009 11:33 PM

Clearly you don't understand that the Speaker of the House does not set national policy with individual nations, even if it is the home of her ancestors and she goes on a junket on the taxpayers dime to be wined and dined as she drains the payroll of the government.

Don't worry, I don't actually expect you to fully comprehend this fact.

But I do expect you to try to continue to make excuses for the Demoncratic duplicity and Pelosi's failures.

Redux 02-22-2009 11:42 PM

Merc...you're always good for a laugh. :D

TheMercenary 02-22-2009 11:43 PM

And I can always count on you to be an apologist for the duplicity of the Dems, well at least for the next 4 years. It fits you well. :D

Redux 02-22-2009 11:44 PM

It must be bitch when the facts are on my side.

But why should facts matter in your obsession with Pelosi and Obama.

TheMercenary 02-22-2009 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 537779)
It must be bitch when the facts are on my side.

Fail.

Pelosi does not set National Policy. Must be a bitch when you live in a fantasy world of your "facts". Give it up. Nothing you have posted disputes anything in this thread. Enjoy your false "facts". :lol2:

Aliantha 02-22-2009 11:47 PM

When are you two going to be nice to each other?

Redux 02-22-2009 11:48 PM

Tell you what, Merc.

I'm happy to let the the Cellar dwellers scroll this thread and decide for themselves.

Redux 02-22-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 537781)
When are you two going to be nice to each other?

I'm done. ;)

Aliantha 02-22-2009 11:49 PM

lol...maybe in this thread? :D

TheMercenary 02-22-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 537782)
Tell you what, Merc.

I'm happy to let the the Cellar dwellers scroll this thread and decide for themselves.

The Speaker of the House does not set National Policy with Italy, even if they give her framed copies of her grand parents birth certificates. Really. She doesn't.

TheMercenary 02-22-2009 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 537784)
I'm done. ;)

You failed, you should be done.

Aliantha 02-22-2009 11:54 PM

I'm having the last word here.

word! :)


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