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classicman 12-30-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 517521)
Classicman, what are you trying to prove?

Absolutely nothing - how bout you?
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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 517521)
Obama is doing what he has always done, strategically playing the public perception game. This incident could have no positive effects for Obama since both sides have made extreme actions so why in the hell would he make a statement if he doesn't have to?

He is playing the game that all politicians play. Do not be surprised by this and soon, with your endless efforts, people will stop reading your threads as just anti-Obama babble.

WTF are you talking about? I posted an article and specifically and INTENTIONALLY posted two comments from there of opposing views. Where was I anti-Obama? Please cite one thing where I have disparaged him since he got elected? Just one. Otherwise, post your apology.

piercehawkeye45 12-30-2008 01:22 PM

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McKinney called on President-elect Obama to address the Gaza crisis, saying the weapons being used by Israel were supplied by the United States.

*underline mine* lol - She doesn't even care what Bush, the sitting president, has to say. She wants Obama to say something. What's he gonna say? "I'll look into it in 3 weeks"
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McCarthy added that it’s also time “for President-elect Obama to start acting on the promises he made to the LGBT community during his campaign so that he doesn’t go down in history as another Bill Clinton, a sweet-talking swindler who would throw us under the bus for the sake of political expediency.”

*Bold mine.

This article brings up some really good points and a note of caution that Obama may already be starting to waffle, backpeddle or modify some of his pre-election stances.
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Rep. Frank: Obama 'Overestimates' Ability to Unify
That has been in the past two days. Because you are emphasising certain parts of the articles, you seem to be making a statement against Obama and with your past complaining of people doing the same against Bush, it would be natural to assume the sides are now switched. You called people out on it before, people have have been called out in the past for posting numerous threads to make a statement against something (rzkenrage for example), and now it seems you might be getting into it.

I don't care if you are anti-Obama, I am myself, but when you start bolding or underlining articles to make a statement against someone, it really seems you are trying to make a personal point and when you string a bunch of those together all with a common purpose, it seems like you are posting the articles just to make that single point.

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You do realize America ALREADY has a president? One who should be taking some sort of stand against this atrocity? But hes too busy looking for reasons to create propaganda and attack another country (Iran, if you haven't already guessed). Obama is not to be a scapegoat, take a look at what Bush is doing right now and see hes already planned to leave Obama with a shaky platform to take come January.
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This guy is a complete fraud who is in way over his head! And what is this nonsense about there being only one president at a time? That never kept him from voicing his opinion(s) in the past. Let's face facts! This man was obsessed with becoming president not being president.
Maybe you did innocently put those two quotes together but since the second really seems to counter the first quote, and with the way you have been posting in the last two days, it would seem more likely that you wanted to emphasis "This man was obsessed with becoming president not being president", which would fit well with the your string of articles the last two days, and not just give two opposing viewpoints.

That is where my statement came from. I said that Obama is playing the public perception game so he will naturally stay out of this issue to counter the argument I got from your post.

The other two lines were more aggressive, maybe too aggressive, but if you are making a crusade against Obama, just admit it and create an anti-Obama thread. If not, I apologize.

classicman 12-30-2008 02:01 PM

Well lets see -
#1) I supported Obama in the first quote - I certainly did not disparage him at all I thought SHE acted like an idiot not him.

#2) I posted something from Barney Frank - and mentioned a note of caution. WTF? That all you got?

#3 & #4 are specific quotes representing two different sides of the same issue. - NEITHER ONE IS MINE!

Read what I actually wrote: " Amazing how we can look at the same situation and come away with totally different views of it. Guess we see what we want to see."

You are a very smart young man, but you are/were way off base here.

Apology accepted - lets just move on. No harm no foul.


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