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piercehawkeye45 10-19-2008 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 495369)
I am heavily involved in the rugby community. I have many friends from SA, all who live and work in the US as permanent immigrants. They are all white and more African American than any blacks I know in the US.

What do you mean by African American? Urban black culture or something else?

Sundae 10-19-2008 06:04 PM

I'm guessing he means they are more both American, i.e. assimilated into mainstream culture and yet more African, actually having been born and lived in Africa.

toranokaze 10-19-2008 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 495362)
I agree completely but I find it interesting that the only group that calls themselves "American" are people of European descendant. Natives are "Natives, Native American, or American Indian". Slaves of African decedent are "African American or black" and African immigrants are "Somalis, African, Nigerians, Blacks, etc". East Asian, Indians, Arabs, Mexicans, Latinos, etc are "[insert ethnicity] Americans or [insert ethnicity]".

That is why heavily promoting the term "European American" for all people of European descent. And the term "Mixed American" for those who don't what they are.

piercehawkeye45 10-19-2008 09:02 PM

I disagree with that. We should not be separating ourselves into groups by racial class, that is degression. I believe we should accept that race is nothing more than a social construct and work to get rid of all discrimination in that respect. If we get rid of the idea of race, we will also rid ourselves of racism as well.

I would rather label everyone in the United States as "American" but at this moment I believe that would be just sweeping the dirt under the carpet and not actually cleaning it up.

Cicero 10-19-2008 09:05 PM

I have an answer, because he's black. If you saw him on the street don't tell me you would think that he's white.

Flint 10-19-2008 10:46 PM

/skips whole thread

BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there."

classicman 10-19-2008 11:05 PM

Who gives a shit what color he is? Either you agree with his ideas, his politics and/or his vision or you don't. Get the fuck over his color people - Geez what friggin century are we living in.

Cloud 10-19-2008 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 495493)
/skips whole thread

BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there."

you would, maybe, not me.

I'd be more likely to say the tall guy with the funny ears.

classicman 10-19-2008 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 495502)
you would, maybe, not me.

I'd be more likely to say the tall guy with the funny ears.

Since you mentioned it - DAMN He's got big ears!

Flint 10-19-2008 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 495502)
you would, maybe, not me.

I'd be more likely to say the tall guy with the funny ears.

I'm responding to the thread topic. Nobody would say "The tall white guy over there."

lookout123 10-20-2008 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 495493)
/skips whole thread

BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there."

I wouldn't. Nope, nuh uh, not me. I'd point and say "that's the motherfucker! No not that one, the one next to him talking about 'change' every damn day."

Crimson Ghost 10-20-2008 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 495505)
Since you mentioned it - DAMN He's got big ears!



Since you mentioned it - Any truth to the rumor that he used to be employed as a radar dish on Guam?

classicman 10-20-2008 11:43 AM

lol! I heard that too.

bluecuracao 10-20-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 495493)
/skips whole thread

BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there."

In Texas, yes, but in Philadelphia...not so much.

Cicero 10-20-2008 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 495493)
/skips whole thread

BECAUSE: if you had to point him out in a crowd, you'd say "The black guy over there."

Maybe you should read the thread next time. That's what I just said...almost verbatum.


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