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Shawnee123 10-14-2008 08:24 AM

Extremists
Extremists who need extremists
Are the pluckiest extremists in the world.


Nice to see an American who can't wait to see our country fall apart, as you think it will Merc. Though I've never been a Bush supporter, I still respect this country enough that I had hopes he and his administration wouldn't fuck it all up: that I might even be wrong and it would be a wonderful time of growth and prosperity.

You want an "I told you so" so badly: is that what patriotism is? You tell me. I've never served.

classicman 10-14-2008 08:53 AM

Like the Quarterback on a football team - The President gets too much credit and/or blame for things that happen during his/her administration. There is typically a lag from 5-10 years on most policy changes. However, with respect to congress it seems to be just the opposite. They seem to skate by unscathed from the ramifications of their actions.

Shawnee123 10-14-2008 09:02 AM

I prefer to think of our president as the coach, if we're talking football analogy.

And if the team loses time after time after time, that coach no longer has a job! :rolleyes:

dar512 10-14-2008 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 493393)
♪ Extremists
Extremists who need extremists
Are the pluckiest extremists in the world. ♫

Shawnee you crack me up.

Oh, and fixed it for you.

Shawnee123 10-14-2008 09:06 AM

How do you make the little music notes? I saw you had done it on another post...cute!

classicman 10-14-2008 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 493412)
I prefer to think of our president as the coach, if we're talking football analogy.
And if the team loses time after time after time, that coach no longer has a job!

That's fine -
Quote:

Like the Coach on a football team - The President gets too much credit and/or blame for things that happen during his/her administration. There is typically a lag from 5-10 years on most policy changes. However, with respect to congress it seems to be just the opposite. They seem to skate by unscathed from the ramifications of their actions.
Same analogy holds.

TheMercenary 10-14-2008 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 493393)
Extremists
Extremists who need extremists
Are the pluckiest extremists in the world.


Nice to see an American who can't wait to see our country fall apart, as you think it will Merc. Though I've never been a Bush supporter, I still respect this country enough that I had hopes he and his administration wouldn't fuck it all up: that I might even be wrong and it would be a wonderful time of growth and prosperity.

You want an "I told you so" so badly: is that what patriotism is? You tell me. I've never served.

There are many ways to be patriotic. Serving in the military is but one of those many. I don't recall saying that I am one of those "who can't wait to see our country fall apart". Nor am I much of a Bush supporter. So please, since you are wrong about your assumptions of me, what is your point?

Shawnee123 10-14-2008 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 493344)
Cool, I respect your choice to stick your head in the sand. But I will be here to blame the next administration for everthing that happens after 4 Nov for the next 4 years.... And rub it in the face of anyone who supported them before that.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 493417)
There are many ways to be patriotic. Serving in the military is but one of those many. I don't recall saying that I am one of those "who can't wait to see our country fall apart". Nor am I much of a Bush supporter. So please, since you are wrong about your assumptions of me, what is your point?

Whatever you say, merc. I think your brand of extremism is very dangerous to our country.

TheMercenary 10-14-2008 09:16 AM

I just think turn about is fair play. I will be having a blast. IMHO, Obama is an extremist. McCain is a wet noodle comparatively.

classicman 10-14-2008 09:44 AM

I am afraid that many will blame whatever happens over the next four years on the current administration. In some cases I think that will be correct. I think the next President will take the credit for the economic turnaround that will most likely occur during their tenure. Realistically, they may not have had very much to do with it. We'll see.

classicman 10-14-2008 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 493429)
I just think turn about is fair play. I will be having a blast.

I hate to ask this, but you'll be having a blast doing what exactly?

TheMercenary 10-14-2008 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 493449)
I hate to ask this, but you'll be having a blast doing what exactly?

it was [sarc], I forgot my tags.

[sarc]Having a blast blaming Obama for everything he didn't do.[/sarc] Sort of like Bush.

classicman 10-14-2008 10:22 AM

Uh ok - question 2...

Will there be a fourth Jihad?

TheMercenary 10-14-2008 10:25 AM

Good question.

tw 10-14-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 493429)
Obama is an extremist.

Everybody is an extremist to an extremist.

Extremists always need a bogeyman. Evil squinty eyes extremist who threaten us in SE Asia. Evil Soviets whose only life purpose is to nuke Americans. Evil Japanese companies vying to destroy American jobs. All Arabs are evil heathens whose only purpose in life is jihad.

To rally extremists, an extremist leader would protect bin Laden. Extremists can be manipulated by dangling these bogeymen and hyping the fear.

An extremist who acutally understood what Robert Baer writes would never post what has been recently been posted in the Cellar. Baer does not view Islam as a threat. Baer was long a valued source of tw's posts that extremists disagree with.

Those who are extremists will only see extremism everywhere. Rush Limbaugh's hypes fear of bogeymen; makes sure extremists always have something to fear.

Obama is an extremists. Obama is a muslim. Obama is a niger. What happened to Obama is a nazi?


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